原文标题：Eve-teasers in India team raise a stink in China
BEIJING: Indian officials managing a youth delegation found themselves struggling to curb rampant harassment of girls by a section of the boys during their week-long tour of China. Desperate officials were forced to separate men and women in separate buses to avoid an untoward incident, according to some of the delegations members.
"I wonder if the youth affairs ministry chose some of the boys on the basis of their ability to use abusive language and harass girls," one of the women in the delegation told TNN. The 100-member team returned to India Saturday after spending 10 days at the invitation of the Chinese government.
Ministry secretary Nita Chowdhury told reporters in Beijing delegation members were chosen on the basis of their community service and certain special qualities out of different organizations like the government-backed National Social Service and the Nehru Yuva Kendra besides different political parties and university outfits.
Women members complained to both Chaudhury and the ministry in New Delhi before officials stepped in and asked some of the boys to behave, TNN was told. At one stage, a section of the troublemakers were ordered to keep out of a sightseeing tour and stay in their hotel rooms.
"Some of us were feeling ashamed being seen with these boys. We were hoping officials from the Nehru Kendra and the ministry were more strict. But they seemed helpless as well," a male member of the delegation said.
Officials talked about punishing and blacklisting the trouble makers, but it was a pointless threat because no one is hardly ever picked up on a youth exchange program a second time.
Some of the youth delegation, which is supposed to represent the best qualities of Indian youth, made lewd remarks on the dressing style of some Chinese girls and called them "chinkis".
They also nagged at girls in the delegation from the northeast. By the time the delegation moved to Inner Mangolia as part of the tour, the misbehaving boys began commenting on some north Indian girls as well, sources in the delegation said.
The tour also caused differences between the youth affairs and external affairs ministry over the Chinese decision to refuse visa to a member from Arunachal Pradesh. The external affairs ministry was peeved because it had been kept in the dark over the issue, sources said.
sandeep (UK) 1 day ago
so the Indian rapist mentality is being advertised fully across the world...good going the so called "next super power".
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Ravi (Hyderabad) replies to sandeep 1 day ago
Sandeep Friend the biggest problem is our people's mind set. Parents teach their kids to be obedient to only their family members, not to the society. As wel as teaches how to make money and importance of money in their live. Friend I am very sorry to say this but this I have found with my friends....
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jaha ladki dekhi ho gaye shuru. Bring disrepute to the name of indians.
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Neerja (Miami) 1 day ago
Not at all surprised at the Indian men's behavior, they are/will be, the rudest thing God ever created
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Parents are responsible.They condone lewd behavior of their sons and reprimand misdemeanor of girls.Few boys know how to deal with girls in a group.Girls are not trained to handle a delicate situation.I think Chinese have better grip on the problem.
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Shameless idiots. Such creeps are a disgrace and earn a bad name for Indians globally.
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hindichinibhaibhai (Peking) 1 day ago
These Indian Scums don't know that Chinks are 100yrs ahead of us
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The delegates are not selected on merit but on their contacts, this had happened with a earlier delegation that had gone to the US also. If you send these pampered brats on a paid holiday at govt expense what else do you expect? The best would have been if these hoodlums had been arrested by the Chinese and subjected to some third degree.
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cssingh (canada) replies to jssidhoo 1 day ago
what Indian Govt gona do-? who selected them . What were criteria . They are disgrace to India---kick them out and take their job and dont send them again anywhere--these hoodlums should never be allowed to represnt India abroad and in India--- a dossier should be opened
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BKMSS (Chicago) 1 day ago
Wonderful, and now you know why Anil Kapoor got a role in Mission Impossible 4 as a foolish skirt-chaser... because that is the image of India in the minds of foreigners. Thanks to the Khaps, boys don't get enough girls when they are young, so they misbehave when they grow up. Hyper-egoistic, hyper-sensitive about patriotism (but they will themselves p!ss and sh!t on the road), they know how backward the country is, but they will bark about "10th biggest economy in the world". 10th biggest means there are 9 countries more powerful than you, so please just shut up. Don't open your biryani hole. Or you can open it, but the world will not care...what a joke.
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relyrahul (new delhi) replies to BKMSS
and boys and girla of your so called rich and powerful countries are saints and mother teressa?
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Harish Kumar (Bengaluru)
How can the Indian youth be taught decency and good behavior..?? If somebody tells them to speak properly or dress properly they will go to media and media will start screaming this is violation of fundamental right of speech...!!! Shame on our system..
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Thats what some "Boys" were doing in Australia, and thats why they had to encounter local backlash
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Kiren (Bomdila) 1 day ago
Every time I travel abroad its always our Indian delegation who creat problem for others. Wheather its making issue of foods, reaching late for meeting, making noise, teasing or passing comments on others, praising too much of ourself etc. In 1987, our youth delegation to Moscow was recieved by few Soviets who had Hindi course. They spoke to us in good Hindi but our youths kept on using English only. Finally one Soviet youth told us, SORRY ENGLISH IS NOT OUR LANGUAGE, its Russian. We must introspect.
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Manmohan Singh (Italy) replies to Kiren 1 day ago
Very well said and nice juta. Day is not far when people of NE will prefer China then racist India.
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Amit (Boston, USA) 1 day ago
Like I have said before 95%people in that hellhole called India are animals. Now they are showing their traits in other countries.
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RatherComplainingDaretoChangeIt (Bnglr) replies to Amit 1 day ago
U AH why r u forgettin u too a prodct of one of those animals
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Jaisa Raja, Waisi Praja ! Most of these youths are sons of politicians & bureaucrats. Rest, need not be described !
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Jaisa Raja、Waisi Praja！大多数这些青年人是政客和官僚主义者的儿子。其余无需赘述！
It's a disgrace these youth are... they tend to look at females more like objects rather than human beings. They deserve to be ill-treated for life in their entire career till they realize the values in life and respect humanity.
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boys should have been given punishment such as give out the name in public. in kerala if you travel one midle age man will be looking or staring at you first. later on he will raise his hands..............govt do nothing in India. this is the original corruption india have. good boys are being corrupted by such due to poor legal system.
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Truth Giver (Bharat,INDIA)
If this is true then all proud Indians must hang our heads in shame.....If the allegations are true we must apologize to those girls (both Chinese and Indian) in the most sincere way......
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satyaa (outofIndia) 1 day ago
China must be real happy with this, China should be relaxed of any competetion that this future generation of India can offer to that country. Look at all the Indian comedy program, the so called stand up comedy is nothing just making fun of others, whether their physical appearance or sexist remarks. This is part of culture and these youths well represented it. I am hopeless about India thats why i am out of here and never coming back.. all the best to rest of you..
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Amol (Mumbai) 1 day ago
Make public the names and identities of these mis-behaving boys or anyone else. No girl will want to marry such shameless youth.
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dhodho (Baripada) 1 day ago
What do you expect? Nehru Yuva Kendra leadership is filled with the sons of UP and Haryana politicians. These are a bunch of uncouth, uncivilized, barbaric people who bring bad name for the country. Don't worry, they soon will drive BMWs to mow down commoners and then be promoted to ministership. Long live Indian oligarchy.
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Komal S (Hyderabad) 1 day ago
Most of these kind of delegations are usually reserved for people who are well connected. I do not think anybody would have made to this list on merit. These are a bunch of kids from well connected families enjoying a free trip to China. These kids are behaving their normal self. Sad but true.
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Col. Tejinder Singh Dhillon (Chandigarh) 1 day ago
While if they found the Chinese girls as strange I would not be surprised. This attacks on North-east (Indian) people is coming from abroad and these young idiots are playing into the hands of the foreigners. We might have some great and honest and polished people on top in India's politics like Dr. Manmohan Singh but the majority of our politicians are ill-educated and ill-bred idiots. Sad of these bums to have created trouble for Indian (North-east) ladies as well. They should be punished on their return.
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biplab (kolkata) 1 day ago
Father of these boys are now ruling India. Just wait these boys also will be politician and one day rule India.
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Gopal Joshi (Upendra)
Why is TOI so mad at this? These men are just doing what they see and read in the English media today. You guys are the advocates of live-in-relations, women's freedom to dress (skimpily) in public, on-night stands, no moral policing, bare-it-all photo displays (I have never seen a bare it all photo or so much news about sex on the front page of any credible news website anywhere in the world). In the western world, people dress the way they dress because thats their culture and it may be good for them but in our society, there is a lot of disparity in culture and levels of understanding and social maturity and ways of thinking of the people. So a skimpily dressed girl when seen anywhere on the road naturally attracts attention by all and some hooligans try to take advantage of the situation. Our police and security are equally lame and are already over burdened with their job and are incapable to protect us on this front. The English media and TOI needs to understand this and not become advocates of any lewd behavior under the false pretext of individual freedom. In the kind of society we live, its our responsibility to protect us and not expect it from the police or our "leaders"
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AD Singh (Delhi) replies to Gopal Joshi 1 day ago
Yes indeed your this comments reflects the immaturity of India society.I am happy that you have accepted the immorality in the Indian society, and very important Mr. Joshi, do you think only the skimpily dressed girls are raped in India... I you think so you are extremely wrong. I wish people like you could change their way of thinking... that alone shall make lot of difference. Be brave and have courage to call Wrong as Wrong... Do u know how many maid servants in India are raped every year. Do u know how many young girls in villages and other areas are raped every year. Is this the faults of those innocent girl... most of the matters go unreported and the culprits walk free because the victim cannot speak because of being surrounded by people of your mentality
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well what else do u expect from sexuallu respressed uncivilized people they go around molesting women in their own country in open public and the police cannot even save them going to another country is a whole another ball game. everyday you see news of how some girl or woman was molested in public and people started grabbing and tearing off her clothes. even these actresses get grabbed all the time. but congrats on representing your country. God knows what they will do at the olympics..
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BritIndian (UK) replies to Mystery 1 day ago
Agree with what you mentioned... and don't worry about Indian visitor's and player's behavior at Olympics 2012. UK rank better than China in terms of human rights. We know how to treat such scums!
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simon (Piscataway, USA) replies to Mystery 1 day ago
if you hate India and Indians why are you reading Indian Newspaper. These idiots are not the one representing the country. Agreed that they should be thrown to jail. But if you comparing all Indians to be like few of these people then i fell sorry for u being so narrow minded.
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Observer (USA) 1 day ago
These racist sobs should be picked out individually and charged with harrassment and hate crimes. They have no busuness to claim they are only true Indians , on the contrary they belong to gutters.
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Hansel (Mumbai) 1 day ago
Typical of bloody Indians....!!!! Indians don't have respect for each other... they call even the North East Chinki's and treat women from the North East in the same way... Indians are a disgrace to the world. So many incidents in the recent past to prove that..!!!
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Exactly what I was commenting since last 3 days on dress code for women. The problem is the psychology of Indian male to lust, grab, harass, molest and r@pe women! Even if girls are packed into a sack, they will still be at a risk of getting harassed. It is due to insufficient judiciary and non-justice that men get bolder in their acts!
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To people who advocate the dress code for girls, I have few questions... 1) Why do babies and little kids get r@ped in our country? Do they wear revealing clothes? 2) The statistics for r@pe is highest in villages and towns. Do women there wear revealing clothes? 3) Everyday r@pes taking place in NCR region, especially of women returning from offices & also the incident in Guwahati few days ago... Were they wearing revealing clothes? If you think the answer to all these questions is NO, then please have shame and stop supporting the cause of dress code for anyone! You daily see tons of r@pes happening there, how many culprits have you seen going to jail? Why there is no strict punishment? Just give 10 years once to a r@pe culprit or 5 years for molestation/harassment, and it will set a strong precedent against crimes.
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Even the Chinese have a far superior mentality than we Indians. Most of their girls wear far smaller dress than even the westerns but still there is no single cases of molestation and harassment! Where are those ministers and member of NCW who were shouting for dress code for women just 2 days back? Now the whole world will come to know about the r@pist mentality. Already the world is laughing on our gov and now on our society as well!
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indian are great (goa) 1 day ago
we are indians, these are the only ways we get people to pay attention to us.
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Rajesh (Madras) 1 day ago
If chinese boys let down their country in India they would be executed upon return. They are a superior country and worthy of superpower status. India will improve only when we introduce martial law. We need state of emergency imposed - the sooner the better.
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slumdog (mumbai) replies to Rajesh 1 day ago
and we need to get rid of nehru family and congress from power
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Anand (pune) 1 day ago
since the incident happened in china, I want the law of the land to take over the situation and punish the culprits...unless ..'en until a few bodies fall off they wont get a lesson..
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Vin Chopra (New Jersey)
Quite accurate reflection of the country as a whole I would say.
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What they do in India did there.. no action on such crimes in India started boosting such people and eventually things outside India.
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Pig hump Mohammed (India)
Disgraceful. This is what happens in a sexually repressed society.
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Tru (chennai) 1 day ago
Teaching about morals and respecting others should start from schools.
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Naresh (Juhu mumbai)
Relations of officials on a freewheeling trip.
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Pronoy Kumar Ghose (Silchar)
All these are the results of the influence of undisciplined western civiliztion
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Sachin (IndIa) 1 day ago
To All, its not about only these guys, most Indians who go from IT service industry for assignments abroad, do not know how to behave : like human or like Dog. They think that every women in west is there for adultery and they are superheroes who can win any gal. Alas, Indians dont get respect and then all guys get frustrated..........................Hope NRIs can understand what I am saying.
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Ranveer (xyz) replies to Sachin 1 day ago
I fully agree with you on this. The way indians behave in US, oh my god can put anyone to shame. At times one feels shame to roam around in a group with loads of Indians and I have seen this with my own eyes.
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Agnel Pereira (Goa)
First of all I am not defending boys, where there are girls there are some remarks about girls made by boys and you know small things should not take it seriously. I know boys should behave good, and when anyone on tour must show your character. Chiknis is not a bad remark but its a way of saying to girls just to tease them.
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Boby Mehta (Australia) replies to Agnel Pereira
Nop such vulgarity is seen anywhere, except, in India.
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Gentleman2 (Pune) 1 day ago
When the "best representatives" of Indian youth are like this, then you can only imagine how pervert and vulgar the average youth is. Myself being a guy, I can say it with utmost honesty that most Indian guys I have encountered only perceive a girl as a sexual prey and when they have fully exploited the girl they not only boast about their perversion to inflate their evil egos, but also move on to select supposedly "homely and cultured" brides their parents have selected to marry. Of course, that is also for dowry. I am sorry to say that infringing upon the modesty of a girl either through deceit of love or force directly is considered as an achievement by Indian males. Most of the Indians males are beta males anyway.
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LOha (varanasi) 1 day ago
What hinduism says about this, should the boys and girls travel together, can dalits , brahimns eat together and travel in same bus and do puja together
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after 50 yrs of independence indian men stll havenot changed.....indian men still haraas women and this is giving a bad name to our so called cultured country which shouts and howls of respect to women....SHAME..!!!!
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rafique (Houston) 1 day ago
Why are Indian boys so sex starved?
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Rajiv (NY) 1 day ago
Why are you addressing these idiods as 'boys'? They are probably grown men in their twenties and thirties... By calling them boys at some level you are implying that such behavior may be acceptable
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Boby Mehta (Australia) replies to Rajiv
Rahul Gandhi is also a boy, he is 42.
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Smic (Smic) replies to Boby Mehta 1 day ago
He is Mama Sonia's boy.
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Game ODI (IND) replies to Smic 1 day ago
Whose 'boy' is Modi? He seems to have been abandoned by the BJP.
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Arun (Mumbai) 1 day ago
That's the problem with we Indians. If people from other country do this with us, we call it racism and create a whirlwind issue of it involving politicians, celebrities etc. If we do this to others, we call it fun.
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raja (hyderabad) 1 day ago
Very , very bad behaviour. I think these guys r sons of our law makers. So officials r hesitating to take action .
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ab (EU) replies to raja 1 day ago
so much for democracy !
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I spend over 3 months in china each year and must say that never ever I have seen any man or guy ever behaving badly with girls. They never ever claim to be highly cultured and broadcasting their cultural superiority either - unlike us. As against them - most times when in buses etc Indian men tend to use bad abusive language in Hindi as they think that no one understands but if I am with my wife or daughter - I really feel so ashamed. I think we are the biggest hypocrites in this world.
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Kunal (Mumbai) replies to Rajeev 1 day ago
I agree to what you are saying partially, because taking pictures and videos of upskirts is rampant in Asian countries like China and Korea.
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Anita (Baroda) 1 day ago
Seems that TOI is sensationalizing a trivial incident, for the Chinese could have easily arrested and penalized the boys within their legal system if the problems were in fact reported by their girls. This is just anonymous mudslinging; as for Chinki: that word may be derogatory in the US, but it is merely an identifier in India. Many Chinkies refer to themselves as Chinkies in India, just as Blacks call themselves Blacks in the US.
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"Many Chinkies refer to themselves as Chinkies in India, just as Blacks call themselves Blacks in the US." Wrong on Chinkies...Go and call blacks as blacks in south central LA. Your dead body will appear without a head
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Ritesh (Gurgaon) replies to Anita 1 day ago
madam, are have you been drinking, This is racial term and is punsihable. The people from north east are INDIANS and not chinkis or indo-chinese. Tey ave had enough of isolation, Kindly do not insult them anymore.
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ChaudhryTyagi is (Chandigarh) replies to Anita
shut up right now. I advise you to go to NE INDIA and do a survey. Use this term on road LOUD. what the hell is "chinki"??? Are you not aware that it is a very derogatory term idiots use for people from NE INDIA? Are they Han Chinese people? Stick this "Chinki" term up ur rear. This is 2012. You abuse my fellow Indians, you won't be spared either.
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Asheesh (Bangalore) replies to Anita
The girls complained to Indian authorities, not Chinese. If it was the Chinese then those "boys" would have been in very deep trouble... And as for the word "Chinky", the words is banned by law in India. Infact using this term may result in 5 years imprisonment, so I think it is considered derogatory, The word is not synonymous with "Black", but with "Nigger" and is considered derogatory worldwide
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Wesley (London, UK) 1 day ago
By an large, Indians live in a DEEPLY sexually repressed society. The vulgar Bollywood films cultivate this and provide the fodder for such repression. Indian males who do not come from a western background have absolutely no skill or decency in engaging healthily with women. That is why we have scumbags like this who advertise the worst of India when they go abroad..
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Err.. (Cochin) replies to Wesley 1 day ago
I am an Indian Male who never came from a western background and had no issues in life,even while travelling . Its usually the dumb saxons who get into brawls, roll on the streets and take a slap of a girls butt...start and Bill Clinton and end at Prince of the Saxons - Charles.Perhaps you should call that "sexual expression" glorified.Your reagent can do absurd nonsense, why judge a few TEENagers having some fun, Oh self righteous,Jebus Christ.
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Aarti (Bangalore) 1 day ago
Why make big news? These are youth and can be taught right and wrong at their age. Does TOI have any relevant or useful news for our nation of 1.2B?
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Boby Mehta (Australia) replies to Aarti
Don't cry when you get molested by one of these boys in the steets. Perhaps you like that kind of thing.
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ChaudhryTyagi is (Chandigarh) replies to Aarti
oh yeah? u don't see what's wrong and what's right? How would it feel if you were from NE INDIA and someone calls you "Chinki"? Are our Indians in NE INDIA "chinese"? Then there is the ever popular North South nonsense. Then we got terms like Punju, Gujju, Bong etc. Is this the way to talk? Shame on you!
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Raja Ghosh (Schenectady, New York) replies to Aarti
You dont see the wrong here. YOu seem to be the sister of those ill mannered guys..
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Rekha S (Jodhpur) 1 day ago
These youths represent what real indians are - sex starved, coward (any body can bash us), lawless (jump the que if we can), filthy (throw rubbish over the wall), hungry (grab wherever we can), mannerless (interupt in conversation), selfish (hell to the country), shameless (lick anyone for benefit), castist (needs no details), generally ugly (least workouts), arrogant (think we are the best0. In general we Indians generally behave like Animals.
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Sharath (Sydney) replies to Rekha S 1 day ago
Wow, you put up quite a list, sadly most of it is true.
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ChaudhryTyagi is (Chandigarh) replies to Rekha S
i'm not feeling happy and proud to admit you're correct. We've made ourselves a laughing stock.
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Desi (USA) 1 day ago
They should have been thrown out the delegation immediately. A simple way is to call Indian Embassy, file a report signed by the affected girls and pack these guys off to India.
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Anand Swamy (New Delhi) 1 day ago
China Hosted the last Olympic showing off its wealth, technological,organizational skills and above all most noticeable the discipline and team spirit. Premier of China was asked to compare India with Chine. He pointedly had stated, we don't consider India and China in the same league. Indians should know now why.
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Shizuka Niwa (Tokyo) 1 day ago
Indian youths are smart but some of them are lacking discipline.
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Heart (Guangzhou) 1 day ago
In China Indians are called ????.means indians are Third class people. No wonder they call so . Shame to be an Indian
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Sunil (USA) replies to Heart 1 day ago
In North America, Chinese are referred to as monkeys In Britain, Chinese are referred to as slitty eyes. In India, Chinese are referred to as Chinks or "Flied Lice". Chinese from China are also very racist especially towards Indians and towards Hakka Chinese
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Guest (SC) replies to Sunil 1 day ago
What is a Hakka Chinese, Sunil ?I don't think you know anything Chinese. I will let you find out what whites call Indians.
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Sunil replies to Guest 12 hrs ago
Are you nuts? Or are you brain washed by the Commies? Take the Uyghur Chinese. Or even the Tibeten people. The Chinese murdered and plundered Tibet and it's people. Hakka people moved South and some went to India and some to Taiwan
Casepoint (Here) 1 day ago
Curry face Indians should not make fun of other races.
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Osup Dai (阿鲁纳恰尔邦)
Vary sad news that China again give staple visa to Arunachal youth. We are Indian but we can't enjoyed what other Indian have. If one member of the team is refused by the China than I think all member should be stop by Indian Govt.Give clear message that Arunachal Pradesh is integral part of India.
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Benze (Delhi) 1 day ago
Now, I'm worried about the Indian contingent in London Olympics' what shame would they brought in for India.
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India has become a banana republic
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Eve easing by Indians in Foreign land too? Shameful Incident. Send them to Saudi, They will cut their hands or legs
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Vasudevan (Chennai) replies to Rajkumar 1 day ago
They will also cut these guys p**is and parcel them to their mom and dad. Rascals should have been handed over to Chinese police.
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Leena (USA) 1 day ago
In US eve teasing doesn't happen. Women can wear shorts etc. Nobody makes derogatory comment. People here are mature. Even staring at girls is considered manner less. Indian boys prove their 3'rd world country status.
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The Realist (Gurgaon) 1 day ago
In India we have a tendency to exaggerate eve teasing, which, in most cases is quite harmless. I have seen it happen in the USA, when I was a student there. As long as two genders (male and female) are there, such things will keep happening. Yes it should not cross the limits. Other than that, it is like sledging on the cricket field, a little bit of which is just fine.
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Ranita (Delhi) replies to The Realist
Are you saying its ok to have a bit of fun at the girls expense?? When will Indian men learn to respect the women (be it your daughter, wife or sister)???
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Sach Ka Samna (Chandigarh) 1 day ago
Big deal. As the saying goes, boys will be boys. Good looking girls get eve-teased, while ugly girls become feminists.
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kissmachaddi (LA) replies to Sach Ka Samna 1 day ago
So you would be ok if a guy makes a nasty remark at one of your female family member. Or, maybe you dont have a good looking female in your family and you fee pretty relaxed with the thought that they will not get eve teased?
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Dinesh (Delhi) 1 day ago
Indian girls are geeky. Many of them believe that if a boy touches them, they will get pregnant. If a boy goes and introduces himself to such girls just to have a chit-chat, they call it eve-teasing.
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Meitei Macha (US) replies to Dinesh 1 day ago
Can I touch your sister?or can I introduce myself to your sister?
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RR (India) replies to Dinesh 1 day ago
You are a moron and also perverted!
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Indian (India) 1 day ago
This is Indian culture. Dirty Indian males are the filth of the world. Good for nothings and deserve to be exterminated. I hope more Indian males are racially attacked abroad.
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Ranita (Delhi) 1 day ago
I am truly sick and ashamed of being an Indian today. I have just no words for the revulsion I feel about what kind of young men we breed.. WHO selected them??
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Vishal (Mumbai) 1 day ago
I have lived in China several years and it is safe for women and have never seen the level of eve teasing or derogatory remarks against women and also they are quite respectful with the Indians living there. Our youth thinks it is an ace up their sleeve if they show such behaviour.
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Indiannri (Hong Kong) replies to Vishal 1 day ago
True Vishal, very true. I travel to China very often and have never seen anything like we see in our own country. Even in HK we see Indians who work as some hotel brokers misbehaving and using cheap lanuguage which only an indian can understand. Its a real shame.
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MK (MP) replies to Indiannri 23 hrs ago
So China beats us in morals as well...
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sujay (Nagpur) 1 day ago
Good.Lets export our bad habits to CHina
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Vijaypratap Singh (Bareilly)
Endocrinologists should be consulted to decrease mail hormones in our youths.
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shyam (kadapa) replies to Vijaypratap Singh 1 day ago
waste of money. smash their ba*ls with a stone. cheep and effective remedy.
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