从这里了解印度人对中国的看法

经济指标大PK:中美印“斗地主”,巴铁围观

2012-03-03 10:59 73个评论 字号:

印度Rediff报道,美国仍然是唯一的超级大国,中国正快速追赶,印度还有很长的一段路要走。在一些经济指标上,rediff将三国拉在一起“斗地主”。很明显,印度在中国和美国面前明显落下风。聪明的rediff拉来了一个围观的看客巴基斯坦。印度人如何看这场“中美印斗地主,巴铁围观”的社会经济指标大对比呢?让我们看看印度网民的评论。

原文标题:Economic indicators: How India, China, Pak compare
原文链接:http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-is-china-on-top-and-pakistan-at-bottom/20110429.htm

印度人眼中的中国经济:中国和印度在经济指标上的对比

经济指标大PK:中美印“斗地主”,巴铁围观。(原文图片)

Lately, there has been a lot of talk about whether China will replace the United States as the economic powerhouse, whether India will overtake China and whether Pakistan is a failed economic state.

While there is no doubt that the United States remains the sole superpower, China — based on current statistics — is fast catching up with the US. India, however, has a long way to go.

So, let’s see where India, Pakistan, China and the United States stand on socio-economic indicators.

最近,人们在大量讨论,中国是否会取代美国成为经济龙头,印度是否会超过中国,巴基斯坦是否是个失败的国家。

美国无疑仍然是唯一的超级大国。根据当前统计,中国正快速追赶美国。然而,印度还有很长的一段路要走。

所以,让我们看看印度、巴基斯坦、中国和美国在社会经济指标上所处的位置。

(三泰虎注:原文是2011年发表的,数据为2010年的数据。为方便对比,三泰虎将这些指标制作成表格)

中美印巴经济指标对比(三泰虎制作)
指标 印度 巴基斯坦 中国 美国
人均GDP(美元) 1296.68 1074.08 4763.87 48387.29
GDP(亿美元) 15983.9 1902.04 64222.8 151572.9
GDP增长率 8.37% 2.75% 9.58% 2.01%
失业率 9.5% 6.1% 4% 9.5%
通货膨胀 8.3% 12.91% 5% 2.7%
FDI(亿美元) 170 10.8 1252 1945
外汇储备(亿美元) 3080 156 30000 770
外债(亿美元) 2975 584 5490 15万
人口(亿人) 12.3 1.6938 13.7 3.1324
人口增长率 1.40% 1.55% 0.65% 0.97%
死亡率 7.6‰ 7.21‰ 7.06‰ 8.38‰
预期寿命 66.09 65.26 73.47 78.11
婴儿死亡率 30.15‰ 67.36‰ 20.25‰ 6.22‰
每对夫妇生育率 2.68 3.43 1.79 2.05

以下是印度网民的评论

Stop beating drum of great Indian democracy
by Raja (View MyPage) on May 02, 2011 08:57 AM | Hide replies

Stop beating drum of great Indian democracy and appreciate China’s achievement. China and India’s GDP was almost equal till 1990 but looks where is China now and India.

停止为印度皿煮敲锣打鼓,应该赞扬中国的成就。中国和印度的各自GDP在1990年前几乎相等。但是,看看现在中国的位置,看看印度的位置。

 

There is tremendous media coverage on the gigantic
by piri (View MyPage) on May 01, 2011 04:38 PM | Hide replies

chasm between development in China and that in India and on how China is so many times India in so many things.

But what is purposefully ignored by the same media and what most common Indians (especially those who have never travelled to China or read about China in any detail) do not know is that Chinese cities, towns and villages are immensely more cleaner than Indian ones !!

In terms of clean surroundings, clean rivers, lakes, clean air, clean streets, clean sewers, clean factories, clean buildings and so on, China is still far behind countries such as Switzerland or Norway or New Zealand or even the US or UK. But when the comparison turns around to India, oh, what a mighty contrast there is !!!! And by the looks of things and by the level of imporatance common Indians give to cleanliness in public spaces, this mighty contrast looks all set to become more and more and more stark as time goes by !!

对于中国和印度的巨大发展差距,以及中国在许多方面远远强于印度,媒体都有大量报道。但媒体所故意忽视的和普通印度人(特别是那些没有去过中国、或者没有仔细了解中国的人)所不知道的是,中国城市、乡镇和村庄比印度要干净得多!!

在整洁的环境、干净的河流、湖泊、空气、街道、下水道、工厂、大楼等方面,中国仍然远远落后瑞士、挪威或者新西兰等国家,甚至落后美国、英国。但如果转而和印度比较,哦,反差太大了!!!就普通印度人对公众场所整洁的重视程度而言,这种巨大的反差随着时间流逝将越来越明显。

 

sonashri kalmegh
India and China
by sonashri kalmegh (View MyPage) on May 01, 2011 04:34 PM

Nothing will come out by comparing India and china, way different from each other. as far as growth is concerned, China is in competition with America and not India. India will grow one of kind! In front of uniqueness of India, not a single country can stand.

将印度和中国进行比较不会得出任何结果。彼此差异极大。就发展而言,中国不是和印度在竞争,而是和美国竞争。印度将发展出自己的特色!在印度的独特性面前,没有任何国家可以比肩。

原创翻译:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

 

Big bubble waiting to get burst
by sameer (View MyPage) on May 01, 2011 02:55 PM | Hide replies

China is nothing but a big bubble which is waiting to get burst. Tt can burst any time and then one can’nt imagine what will be the condition there. Whereas India has a strong and solid economy and will continue to grow and can bear extreme economic conditions of the world economy much better than China which is very very unstable and just a short time glory.

中国只是一个即将破裂的巨大泡沫。这个泡沫随时会破裂。没人可以想象会出现什么情况。比较之下,印度经济是强大和稳固的。它将继续发展,比中国更能忍受世界经济的极端状况。中国非常不稳定,只是昙花一现。

 

Always can seem Indians predict 2015\2020\2050
by kewell owen (View MyPage) on Apr 30, 2011 05:57 PM | Hide replies

Always can seem Indians predict 2015\2020\2050. Why u see now?
If u go to China,U will see the huge gap.
U will see bullet train and maglev,U will see 5 milllion cars only in Beijin. U will see thousands skyscaper not only in Shanghai,but also dozens city such as Guangzhou\Shenzheng\Hangzhou\Dalian\nanjin\chongqing\Tianjin\Wenzou\..and others.
U will see nearly 40 cities under metro construction.
Many indians don’t know much about China only bicos India media always ignore China’s achievement. Your ignorance can’t mean world ignorance.

In 2010, the number of foreign tourists in China reached 56 million, and India only attract 5.6 million with CWG.
Tata Consultancy Services has an agency in Hangzhou,and I heard some indian staffs do not want to return to India.

总是看到印度人预测2015、2020、2050年的情况。为什么不看现在?如果去中国,你将看到巨大差距。你将看到高铁和磁悬浮。你将看到仅在北京就有500万辆汽车。你将看到数以千计的摩天大楼。不仅在上海有,许多城市都有,比如广州、深圳、杭州、大连、南京、重庆、天津、温州等。你将看到接近40座城市在建地铁。由于印度媒体总是忽略中国成就,许多印度人不大了解中国。你们无知并不意味着世界无知。

2010年,中国的外国游客数量达到5600万,而印度通过英联邦运动会只吸引了560万外国游客。塔塔咨询服务公司在杭州有办事机构。我听说有些印度员工不想回印度。

Re: Always can seem Indians predict 2015\2020\2050
by Muthu Ramaswami (View MyPage) on Apr 30, 2011 09:50 PM
China has made blunder by increasing reserves to 3 trillion. Everyone is impressed but it is the highest risk. When dollar gets devalued every 1% fall in dollar means loss of 30billion to China. It is not far away. Rating of US has been downgraded.
First nail in bubble of China growth which is entirely based on exports to US.

中国犯了一个错误,它将外汇储备积累到3万亿美元。每个人都深知这是非常危险的。美元每贬值1%,意味着中国损失300亿美元。这并不远了。美国的信用评级已经下调了。这将首先吹破完全靠对美出口的中国泡沫。

Re: Re: Always can seem Indians predict 2015\2020\2050
by Muthu Ramaswami (View MyPage) on Apr 30, 2011 09:55 PM
Of course by saying this I dont mean to say Indian govt is great. But the west may still succeed in doing to China what they did to Japan.

当然我这样说的意思并不是印度政府是伟大的。西方可能成功的以对付日本的方式对付中国。

Re: Re: Re: Always can seem Indians predict 2015\2020\2050
by Guest (View MyPage) on May 01, 2011 02:48 AM
That’s your and somne westerners’s wishful thinking. China is not Japan. China can do better than Japan and any other coutry. We will see.

那是你和一些西方人一厢情愿的想法。中国不是日本。中国可以比日本和其他任何国家做的更好。走着瞧。

Re: Always can seem Indians predict 2015\2020\2050
by Amit Arora (View MyPage) on Apr 30, 2011 06:29 PM
How many skyscaper are there in France, Spain and Germany you can be a developed nation without making skyscaper bulidings.Prosperity is more important then skyscapers.

法国、西班牙和德国有多少摩天楼?不建摩天楼,也可以成为一个发达国家。繁荣比摩天楼更重要。

Re: Re: Always can seem Indians predict 2015\2020\2050
by Joe Wong (View MyPage) on Apr 30, 2011 07:11 PM
I think he is just trying to give some examples.

Prosperity is everywhere in China. It’s very hard not to notice it when you are there.

But it’s very hard to describe unless you’ve seen it yourself. That’s why people often try to use things like skyscrpers as examples.

我认为他只是试图举一些例子。中国到处都繁荣。如果在那里,你肯定会注意到的。不过,除非你亲眼所见,否则非常难以形容。那就是人们经常拿摩天楼当作例子的原因。

Re: Always can seem Indians predict 2015\2020\2050
by mohammed ulhaq (View MyPage) on May 01, 2011 11:15 AM
Mr. Kewell, you seem to be great fan of China but my dear frnd there is a huge difference between China and India. India being a democratic country it has restricted FDI to 26% where as there is no such restriction in China. If something goes wrong with USD then all these FDIs will be flown out of the country and will be left with these huge skyscrapers and millions of cars only. Where as in India even during recession we had shown growth and will had demonstrated that we are not dependent on USD. Hope you will understand whey India is considered almost equal to China with such visible differences. I am proud and happy to be born in India rather in China, are you ???

kewell先生,你似乎是伟大的中国粉丝。但是,亲爱的朋友,中国和印度差异非常大。印度是皿煮国家,将外资限制在26%,而中国没有这样的限制。如果美元出问题,所有外资将会撤离中国,留下的只是摩天楼和数以百万计的汽车。而印度甚至在衰退时期,经济都在发展,这显示了我们并不依赖美元。希望你明白,即使看起来明显有差距,印度几乎被看成和中国相当。我是自豪的,对自己生在印度,而不是中国,感到开心,你呢?

 

Just 10 years back no one even talks about China and India. Only
by Kumar (View MyPage) on Apr 30, 2011 03:41 PM | Hide replies

Just 10 years back no one even talks about China and India. Only USA, UK and Europe were King. But time cycle changed so fast that today everyone even in developed countries all are taking about India and China success. This is a big achievement for 3rd world countries like China and India.

仅在10年前,没人谈论中国和印度。只有美国、英国和欧洲才是老大。但形势变化如此快。今天,甚至在发达国家,大家都在谈论印度和中国的成功。这对于中国和印度这样的第三世界国家来说是个巨大成就。

 

India will surpass China as the fasted growing major economy by 2
by Loga (View MyPage) on Apr 30, 2011 11:02 AM | Hide replies

India will surpass China as the fasted growing major economy by 2015, by IMF.India literacy rate is much lower than China, India technical and management institutes are far better than such schools in China.It is estimated that that only 10 per cent of Chinese engineers have the skills required to work in a global company, while the comparable number for India is 25 per cent.

根据IMF,2015年前,印度将超过中国成为发展速度最快的大国。印度的识字率比中国低很多。印度的技术和管理学院比中国同类学校要远远更好。据估计,只有10%的中国工程师能够胜任跨国公司的工作,而印度的这一数据是25%。

 

Jai Sidhhu baba
by kadvi mirchi (View MyPage) on Apr 30, 2011 09:44 AM | Hide replies

Statistics are like short skirts. they reveal unimportant things but hide most important thing.

统计就像超短裙。它揭露不重要的东西,但掩盖最重要的东西。

原创翻译:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

 

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by Mohammad Haris (View MyPage) on Apr 30, 2011 03:34 AM | Hide replies

India sux in front of US and China, so it adds Pak comparison to redeem its pride. They might ass well compare themselves with SAARC

印度在美国和中国面前太难堪,所以将巴基斯坦拉进来比较,以挽回自尊。印度可能也会将自己和南亚联盟国家比较。

 

Pak
by srikanth hegde (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 10:58 PM

Why do we want to compare ourselves with Pak? Does not it look strange? We are far ahead in our development and we should be comparing with other equal countries like Brazil, South Africa, Mexico and Malaysia.

为什么我们要将自己和巴基斯坦比较?看起来不会奇怪吗?在发展上,我们遥遥领先。我们应该和同等国家比较,比如巴西、南非、墨西哥和马来西亚。

 

Illusion
by Satya Vachak (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 10:55 PM

just leave out top 5% wealthiest, then recalculate per capita income you will see 80% fall in it.

只要把5%最富有的人去掉,重新计算人均收入,你会发现人均收入下降了80%。

 

india is way behind china…in social equality…….
by devedas bhaskar (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 10:13 PM | Hide replies

due to caste system… china does not hVE TO CONTEND WITH THIS DEBILITATING social evil-the biggest social crime in the world -our very own caste system!!!!

由于种姓制度,印度在社会平等上远远落后中国…中国不需要和虚弱的社会恶习作斗争。我们的种姓制度是世界上最严重的社会犯罪。

 

Corruption index
by Rajaram (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 03:03 PM | Hide replies

Where is the corruption index rating? India will be on top

腐败指数呢?印度肯定是最高的

Re: Corruption index
by Huhumba Lulumba (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 04:27 PM
Corruption Perception Index 2010 (Source Wikipedia)

USA 22
China 78
India 87
Pakistan 143

2010年清廉指数(来自Wikipedia)
美国:22
中国:78
印度:87
巴基斯坦:143

 

How near is China to US
by Prasad (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 02:03 PM | Hide replies

With a per capita GDP about 8 time more than China, it is laughable that the stupid correspondent says China is fast catching up with the US.

(中国有多接近美国)。美国人均GDP是中国的8倍多,愚蠢的记者说中国正快速追赶美国,真是可笑。

 

Where is indicators of rich people from these states
by vimal singh (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 12:38 PM

Our GDP is only with rich people where as other countries it is with common man. Our GDP is far better— go and see Swiss bank accounts of Indians. hahahaha

我们的GDP只是富人的,而其他国家的GDP是老百姓的。我们的GDP要好得多——去看看印度人的瑞士银行账户。哈哈…

 

 

Not only GDP unemployment has also increased.
by Parichay (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 11:30 AM

now we have 3% more unemployment than 1993.

There is something seriously wrong in our economical mathematics. Gujrat is among the worst 5 state in hunger index. So many other facts to indicated GDP is not measure of actual misery or replenishment of the common people.

GDP only shows how are corporates are growing.

70 % of India earn less than a 50 rupees per day. 52% of India having agriculture as their profession and we internet bloggers are not at all connected with them.

27 % earn less than 25 rupees a day.

22% of the population hold 78% of the wealth.

我们现在的失业率比1993年增加了3%。

我们的经济计算有一些严重错误。在饥饿指数上,古吉拉特邦是最差的5个邦之一。许多其他事实显示GDP并不能真正衡量老百姓是否幸福。GDP只表示企业发展得如何。

70%的印度人每天赚钱不足50卢比。52%的印度人从事农业。我们网民完全接触不到他们。
27%的印度人每天赚不足25卢比
22%的印度人拥有78%的财富。

 

Why Pakistan ?
by umamahesh kar (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 11:00 AM | Hide replies

Don’t get logic of incl Pak in this comparison ? For what purpose ? It makes sense to compare Brazil or Russia.

想不通为什么将巴基斯坦拉进来比较。为了什么目的?跟巴西或者俄罗斯比较才有意义。

 

Nice one
by vineet kk (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 10:27 AM | Hide replies

Useful information, assuming these are correct. Data is almost on the expected lines, except a few points. Can someone clarify these?

Why is death rate in US more than India/China/Pak?
External debt of US is huge compared to others. It is surprising to me.
FDI in US is huge. Who is actively investing there?

如果这些数据是正确的,那么就是有用的信息。除了几点外,数据基本符合预期。

有人能够解释一下吗?为什么美国的死亡率比印度、中国和巴基斯坦更高?相比其他国家,美国的外债为什么如此高?这让我很吃惊。美国的外资很庞大,是谁在那里积极投资呢?

 

Most important factor
by om shanti (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 10:04 AM | Hide replies

Literacy is most important factor,that is missing..India 74%,China 95%….

识字率是最重要的指数,这里遗漏了…印度是74%,中国是95%…

 

India is richer than US or China
by Chalta Hai (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 09:59 AM | Hide replies

A single cup of coffee costs Rs 300 in USA
A single cup of coffee costs Rs 5 in India
A single cup of coffee costs Rs 50 in China

(印度比美国或者中国更富裕)
美国一杯咖啡要价300卢比
印度一杯咖啡要价5卢比
中国一杯咖啡要价50卢比

Re: India is richer than US or China
by Save Tiger (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 10:21 AM
A single person earns Rs.5,00,000 in US
A single person earns Rs.10,000 in India
A single person earns 1,50,000 in China

美国人均赚50万卢比
印度人均赚1万卢比
中国人均赚15万卢比

 

ha ha hah
by srimanta (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 09:48 AM

how can one even think of comparing pakistan with india,China and US??? wat a joke??

为什么有人会想到将巴基斯坦与印度、中国和美国比较?真是笑话

 

Stop the obsession with Pak
by Rana Pratap (View MyPage) on Apr 29, 2011 09:45 AM | Hide replies

Why are you guys so obsessed with the Pakistanis anyway? India is 7 times its size in every way. India should be comparing itself to China, not an entity like the US (which is in a different league), or Pakistan which is nowhere near India’s standing in any regard. Can you guys PLEASE stop all these nonsensical reports on Pak? We really don’t care about these guys, and it’s silly to keep obsessing over this failed state… Let them stew in their own juice, it’s time for India time to move on…

为什么你们这些家伙这么迷恋巴基斯坦人?印度所有方面都7倍于巴基斯坦。印度应该将自己和中国比较,不应该和不处于同一级别的美国相比教,也不应该和任何方面都远远不如印度的巴基斯坦相比较。你们这些家伙能不能不再发表这些荒谬的报告?我们真的不关心巴基斯坦人。老是迷恋这个失败国家是愚蠢的…让他们自己烂掉吧,印度是时候该进步了…

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    我今天是第一次打开。。。。
    从首页进不来。。。点击其他帖子连接才打开的。。。很多人通过百度搜你的网站,接着点击不开就会放弃的,都会认为被墙了

  8. 关注这个博客很久了,今天特意上来支持楼主。提个建议,发表评论时能不能不要这么麻烦呢?很伤大家的积极性的!填完一通资料后,想说啥也都忘了。嗯,说完了,楼主加油

  9. 感谢博主的翻译,让我们更方便的近距离了解南亚最大的邻居。
    另,我用的foxfire浏览器,还没有碰到打不开的情况。
    我是用的中国电信宽带。

    • 谢谢这位朋友。电信的比较容易上。我用的是铁通的,天天通过代理上自己的博客。正在着手解决这个问题

  10. 在我收藏里是显著的位置,因为这是一个普通中国人的视野,不受任何约束和干预。因为常常进不来,说明来的朋友很多很多,以至于不能轻易进入。当然现在好多了。虎兄弟在做一件有意义交流事情,辛苦的。希望再接再厉,不过让一些能人参与翻译,再扩大到其它国家,做成一个真正的各国之间相互交流的网站,大网站、名网站,大有可为。支持三泰虎!上海-江南

    • 三泰虎本人也是常常需要代理进来。
      对了,三泰虎是比较专注中印交流的,也可以点缀一些其他国家的内容。
      三泰虎一个人的力量确实有限,所以已经开放投稿。
      欢迎常来三泰虎逛逛 😛
      另:以后网站搬回国内就可以轻松进来了,不过要备案就是了

      • 噢!原来也有难处。不过是不是因为“和蟹”让境外有影响的网页也变得迟迟疑疑、慢慢吞吞,嘻嘻。但愿不是。国内的网页一般是比较快的就出现的,也许“挂靠”在什么背景,比较讲究吧。你的网页已经许多朋友知道了,如果回来,希望蒸蒸日上。

  11. 我想在新浪网推荐一下,可是人家不给机会显示,白废工夫,在环球网显示过,不知是否有用。过去我一直想了解外国人想法,不易找,在天涯论坛也有,但不直接,我正是通过天涯论坛找到三泰虎的,我很开心,它给我异样的感受。

  12. 既然说人气低?不会吧 只是很多时候大家默默无闻而已吧 我就是常来逛却从不留言的 很喜欢的其实 支持你