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跨种姓婚姻悲剧:印度一名达利特娶高种姓女子被刺伤

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在印度,低种姓娶高种姓常常酿成悲剧。在比哈尔邦东查姆帕兰区莫提哈里镇上,一名达利特年轻人违背女方家人的意愿,娶了一名高种姓女子,结果被刺伤,他的妻子被亲家绑架。这名达利特躺在医院病床上寻求正义,当时他已经被警方拘留。拉穆在医院病床上接受rediff的电话采访时称,警方的行为看似他是真正的罪犯,但事实是一年前公正结婚时,他和妻子库西波·辛格都是成年人。印度宪法允许一名成年人迎娶或者选择自己的终生伴侣。

原文标题:Dalit stabbed; in detention for marrying upper-caste girl
原文链接:http://www.rediff.com/news/report/dalit-stabbed-in-detention-for-marrying-upper-caste-girl/20120728.htm

印度低种姓、达利特

印度低种姓人群

A Dalit youth, who had married an upper-caste girl against the wishes of her family, was stabbed, and his wife abducted by his in-laws in Motihari town in Bihar’s east Champaran district nearly 10 days ago, is seeking justice from the hospital bed as he has been put under police detention.

“I was put in police detention and handcuffed in the hospital where I am under treatment after being stabbed 20 times by my in-laws, who also abducted my wife, in an old case filed by my father in law, which is baseless. It appears to me that police is more keen to torture me instead to recover my wife and arrest the named accused in my complaint,” Krishna Prasad Ram, the 24-year-old victim said.

近10天前,在比哈尔邦东查姆帕兰区莫提哈里镇上,一名达利特年轻人违背女方家人的意愿,娶了一名高种姓女子,结果被刺伤,他的妻子被亲家绑架。这名达利特躺在医院病床上寻求正义,当时他已经被警方拘留。

“在被亲家捅了20刀后,我住进医院接受治疗。亲家绑架了我的妻子。根据岳父起诉的一个毫无根据的旧案,警察拘留了我,并给我戴上了手铐。看起来警察更热衷于虐待我,而不是解救我的妻子和拘捕我起诉的罪犯,”24岁的受害者普拉萨德·拉穆说。

Ram told rediff.com over telephone from his hospital bed that the police is behaving as if he is the real criminal, but the fact is that at the time of his court marriage a year ago, he and his wife Khushboo Singh were adults, and India’s constitution allows an adult to marry or choose his life partner.

Nine police personnel have been deputed for my security and surveillance round the clock, despite the fact that they handcuffed me during treatment at the Sadar Hospital,” he said.

Ram was 23 and Khushboo was 21 when they got married. “Even if we were forced to to elope after her family opposed, it was not a crime as both of us were adults and consenting adults,”Ram said.

拉穆在医院病床上接受rediff的电话采访时称,警方的行为看似他是真正的罪犯,但事实是一年前公正结婚时,他和妻子库西波·辛格都是成年人。印度宪法允许一名成年人迎娶或者选择自己的终生伴侣。

“在萨达尔医院接受治疗期间,9名警察被指定负责我的安全,他们24小时全天候监视。尽管如此,他们还给我戴上了手铐,”他说。

结婚时,拉穆23岁,库西波21岁。“即使她家反对后我们被迫私奔,那也不是什么罪,因为我们两人都是成年人,”拉穆说。

His marriage was registered at the Motihari court as per the law. Ram has been charged with elopement on the basis of his father-in-law Manoj Singh’s complaint a year ago. Interestingly, handcuffing of Ram also enraged Anil Kumar, the sub-divisional judicial magistrate in Motihari,when he was produced at the court.

Kumar expressed his unhappiness over police action when he saw that Ram was in no position to appear. It was the judge who ordered the police to take back Ram to the hospital for proper treatment.

Motihari’s Deputy Superintendent of police Vijay Kumar downplayed Ram’s case by saying that he was not aware of such case. Ram alleged that the police had failed to make any breakthrough to recover his abducted wife and arrest any accused till date.

According to him, the police is yet to take cognisance of his complaint against his in laws for the abduction of his wife and the murderous attack on him. Ram was attacked by his wife’s relatives, who abducted her and assaulted their six-month-old baby.

两人的婚姻是依法在莫提哈里法庭登记的。拉穆被控私奔罪,依据是他岳父兰维杰·辛格一年前提起的控告。有趣的是,给拉穆戴上手铐也在法庭立案时触怒了莫提哈里分区的司法官安尼尔·库马尔。

当看到拉穆无法出席时,库马尔对警方的行动表达了不悦。正是这名法官命令警察把拉穆带回医院接受合理治疗。

莫替哈里的副警司维杰·库马尔将拉穆的案子轻描淡写,他说并不知道这个案子。拉穆指控警方未能取得任何突破性进展,迄今没有解救被绑架的妻子,也没有逮捕被告。

拉穆称,他控告亲家绑架他的妻子和谋害他,但是警方还有待受理这个控告。妻子的亲戚攻击拉穆,绑架了拉穆的妻子,还袭击了他们6个月大的孩子。

A police official from the Motihari town police station said, “We have no clue of her whereabouts. We have also not found any body. Locals here fear that that it may end up as another honour killing case,” the official said.

Ram along with his wife Khushboo and their child arrived at the Motihari railway station by the Jan Nayar Express from New Delhi on July 18 and spent the night at the platform. The same night was stabbed and his wife was abducted, the police said.

A first information report had been lodged at the police station against Khusboo’s uncle Manoj Singh and father Ranvijay. Police officials said that they had raided the house of accused, but they could not be found.

Ram and his wife had come to Motihari to appear in the court in connection with a kidnapping case. The police say that Ram had married Khushboo in a local court after they were opposed by her family in Gaunahi village a year ago. Ram also hails from the same village.

莫提哈里镇警察局的一名警官称:“我们对库西波的下落毫无线索。我们也没有发现任何尸体。当地人担心这可能又是以荣誉谋杀案收场。”

7月18日,拉穆协同妻子库西波和孩子一起乘坐简纳亚尔特快列车从新德里来到莫提哈里火车站,并在站台上过夜。当天晚上,拉穆被刺伤,妻子被绑架。

第一手信息报告被提交给警察局,该报告指控库西波的叔叔马努基·辛格和父亲兰维杰·辛格。有警官称警方突袭了被告的住所,但是没有发现什么。

拉穆和妻子是为了出庭一个涉及绑架的案子而来到莫提哈里镇。警方称,高纳希村的女方家人一年前反对他们结婚,拉穆和库西波随后在一个当地法庭娶了库西波。拉穆也是来自同一个村。

以下是印度网民的评论:

Quite surprising
by vivek bansal (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 04:21 PM | Hide replies

Section of media,more interested in caste of victim/attacker and less interested in reporting the wrong that is against whole society.

No need to divide the people on caste basis which is more liked by wicked politicians.
Irrespective of party,all are falling over each other to project themselves as lower caste well wisher.

媒体对种姓受害者和攻击者更有兴趣,对违背整个社会的恶行没那么感兴趣。

没有必要依据种姓来把人民分隔开。邪恶政客更喜欢这样做。

不管是哪个政党,统统争先恐后以低种姓的良好祝愿者的姿态出现。

This is the real India
by Predator (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 03:52 PM

where no matter how developed we are caste plays the most important role in many things right from marriage to even getting a flat.

不管我们多发达,种姓在许多事情中发挥着最重要的作用,从婚姻甚至到领取公寓,概莫能外。

unfortunate
by santosh deshpande (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 02:33 PM

but despite making advances in IT, age old traditions r still prevalent, not just in villages but also in cities

尽管在IT业取得了进步,古老传统还是盛行,不仅是在农村,城市里也是如此。

Arranged marriages
by Louis Hamon (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 02:23 PM | Hide replies

In India the arranged marriages are still current Vs rarer love marriages as they have more social acceptance since both will be from the same social strata. But education changes the picture. Ram has had a secular education and so presumably his wife.

在印度,家庭包办婚姻仍然流行。相较之下,恋爱婚姻更少见。因为前者社会接受度更高,双方都来自同一社会阶层。但是教育改变了这个情形。拉穆接受了世俗教育,他的妻子大概也是(译文来源:三泰虎)。

Modi should be the Next PM
by ayub khan (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 01:41 PM | Hide replies

If anybody wants to prevent india to become afganistan than Narendra Modi should be the PM.

He will be the best PM of the India.

如果有谁要避免印度变成阿富汗,那么纳伦德拉·穆迪应该当上总理。

他将会成为印度最好的总理。

Re: Modi should be the Next PM
by Janarddan (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 02:57 PM
Then “India” will replace “Afghanistan” as the name to refer to abhorred societies.

那么“印度”会取代“阿富汗”成为憎恨社会的代名词。

Re: Re: Modi should be the Next PM
by ayub khan (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 03:36 PM
India will emerge as a No.1 Country of the world….. Will lead the world

印度会崛起为世界头号大国…会领导世界。

Reality.
by Secular india (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 01:09 PM | Hide replies

RSS and BJP are the root cause of evils in Pakistan, Afganistan, Sudan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria Egypt, Syria, etc.

印度极右翼党和印度人民党是巴基斯坦、阿富汗、苏丹、伊拉克、沙特、尼日利亚、埃及、叙利亚等国家的邪恶根源。

barbaric india
by patriot (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:58 PM | Hide replies

I wish india will get civilised. It is sad these things happen. These things only happen in backward countries.

我希望印度变得文明。可悲的是这些事情发生了。这些事情只会在落后国家发生的。

Not surprised
by Haramohan Roy (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 11:41 AM | Hide replies

I am not surprised. In India, upper caste people are known to even kill their own children for their false “honour”!

我不吃惊。在印度,为了虚假的“荣誉”,高种姓人以杀害自己的孩子而著称!

Re: Not surprised
by Secular india (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 01:04 PM
Dalit Mind

达利特思维。

Re: Not surprised
by RITESH BANERJEE (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 11:59 AM
Yes…You are right…!!People from lower caste don’t do anything…!!They came straight from heavens…and that’s why they are getting reservations in our country even after almost 70 years of Independence…!!

是的…你是对的…!低种姓人什么也不做…!他们直接来自于天堂…这就是独立快70年后,他们仍然在我们国家享受预留制的原因!

Re: Re: Not surprised
by abcde (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:45 PM
i guess ur a failure 🙂 u cant even get the 75-80% of the seats reserved for u so called dirty upper caste

我猜你是个失败者 🙂 你甚至无法获得为所谓的肮脏高种姓预留的75-80%比例的名额。

status of women in religeon & castes
by DrColNB Singh

in no religeon women are given equal status. if the boy was upper caste & girl was from dalit caste, it could have been tolerated by the society because society treat women as property.to avoid such situation women should earn education, economic independence & political power.

没有哪个宗教赋予女性平等的地位。如果男孩是高种姓,女孩是达利特,那么社会可能会容忍,因为社会把女性当做财产看待。为了避免本文的情况,女性应该获得学历、经济独立和享有政治权利。

is this news even worth reporting?
by rajesh kumar (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 09:56 AM | Hide replies

I am surprised, rediff keeps publishing such news but will not publish any news about corruption in UPA govt and how national wealth is being plundered by dacoits and anti national politicians…

我表示吃惊,rediff老是发表此类新闻,但是不报道UPA政府的腐败,不报道国家财富是如何被土匪和反国家的政客掠夺的…

Re: is this news even worth reporting?
by abcde (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:46 PM
yeah because the upper castes plunder the wealth …i may say?

我可以这样说吗,即不报道的原因是掠夺财富的是高种姓…?

Attempt to murder against that who stabbed
by youngcitizen (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 08:54 AM

attempt to miurder who stabbed.nalayak person…we indians are cheap people in the world.poor nation.poor mentality.mentally upset people…..why not that men also kicked him in reverse.when their is no law and order then why he was afraid who was stabbing him?????police,courts all fail here

我们印度人是世界的卑贱小人,可怜的国家、可怜的心态,让人们变得心烦意乱…为什么那个男人不反过来踢他呢。既然没有法律和秩序,为什么他会害怕捅他的人?警察和法庭在这里都没起作用。

caste system
by sankar narayanan (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 08:06 AM | Hide replies

all parties especially the sonia & co are playing caste based politics. no way to eradicate this system. the almighty only can save our country

所有的政党都在玩弄种姓政治,特别是索尼娅和国大党。没有消灭这个体制的方法。只有万能上帝才能拯救我们国家。

Re: caste system
by youngcitizen (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 08:51 AM
if court order to shoot that person who abducted wife of that person then no one will dare to do this again.cheap mental person who did this ….hang him openly in a garden.,,,remember these are those people who were brutually kicked like animals by britishers

如果法庭命令击毙绑架他妻子的人,那么没有人会胆敢再犯。卑鄙心态的人…在公园里公开处死他吧…记住,正是这些人被英国人像踹动物一样残酷镇压的。

True Face of India
by Inzy Bhai (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 06:46 AM | Hide replies

This incident mirrors the true face of India. Caste is so deeply ingrained in the psyche of those who practice it that their whole identity is defined by it. And the stunning issue is that it stems from a religion which is supposed to be the embodiment of all that is good & knowledgeable. This is a clear indication of evil being intrinsic to a faith & these very people have the gall to pass judgement on other faiths.

这个事件反应了印度真实的一面。种姓思想是如此根深蒂固,以致于它定义了人们的整个身份。令人震惊的问题是它起源于本该彰显善良和知识的宗教。这清晰表明了宗教信仰固有的邪恶之处。这些人居然有脸评判其他宗教信仰。

Re: True Face of India
by netizen netwala (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 06:49 AM
Please stop generalizing India because of this. All this BS caste issues are predominantly in UP, BIHAR and HARYANA and the NORTH . The casteist mentality of this scum

请不要因为这件事而泛化印度。种姓问题主要出现在北方邦、比哈尔邦、哈利亚纳邦和印度北部。这些垃圾的心态是最种姓的。

Abrahamic religion vested interests sponsored news
by Sam (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 05:34 AM | Hide replies

Abrahamic religion vested interests sponsored news

这是亚伯拉罕宗教既得利益者的赞助新闻。

He he
by Narendran kumar (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 02:02 AM | Hide replies

Wonderful, marvelous. Police always are servants of upper caste, money, politicians. You cant expect justice for dalits in this country.

好极了,了不起。警察一直是高种姓、金钱、政客的仆人。达利特在这个国家无法期望得到公正。

Re: He he
by prakash sharma (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 06:44 AM
u r mistaken buddy ..!! 90% of the police force , military , government jobs r occupied by lower caste ppl. thru reservations..! upper caste ppl r hardly even considerable and negligible..

你错了,哥们…!90%的警察、军队、政府部门工作被低种姓通过预留制占据!高种姓几乎不被考虑,或者无关紧要…

Dirty upper castes
by Pure Dravidian (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 01:03 AM | Hide replies

They will do anything to secure their privileged social status given by the British-Brahmin nexus.

为了保住英国-婆罗门轴心给予的享有特权的社会地位,他们什么事情都做得出来。

Re: Dirty upper castes
by fightagaintevils (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 01:30 AM
U fool.How many Brahmins have done killings.Do you know crime statistics?

你个傻瓜。有多少婆罗门杀人了?你知道犯罪统计数据吗?

Re:  Dirty upper castes
by Rupakshi (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 05:54 AM
You jerk, probably the girl is not even Brahmin. It was Brahmins who fought against British and they never had goo relations. You coward afraid of castigating any other caste, go after Brahmins. If Brahmins were not there, we would have been transported as slaves to middle eat. You want to declare youself as lower for ever and fight for it. Why don’t you move to Paki land and see how much reservations and privileges will you get. Such junk takes any sympathies I have for the lower caste garbage. When do you want to be called equal or better?

你个蠢人,可能这名女孩不是婆罗门。正是婆罗门反抗英国,他们从来没有好的关系。你这个懦夫害怕谴责其他种姓,所以把目标瞄准婆罗门。要不是婆罗门,我们可能会被当做奴隶贩往中东。你想声明自己永远是个低种姓。为什么不迁往巴基斯坦,看看你在那里能获得多少预留名额和特权。这些垃圾获得了所有我对低种姓的同情。你们什么时候会想被称为地位平等或者更好的种姓?

because of caste system we are
by mohd arshad (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:20 AM | Hide replies

not developing..everybody want to support his own caste..people do not think what is right or wrong?

问题出在不与时俱进发展的种姓制度…每个人都想要支持自己所属的种姓…人们不会去想什么是对的或者什么是错的?(译文来源:三泰虎)

Re: because of caste system we are
by fightagaintevils (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:25 AM
u can say the same for state,language,country etc.Caste doesnt provide support to its people?

你所说的也同样适用于邦、语言、国家等。难道种姓没有给这些人提供支持吗?

Re: because of caste system we are
by Ajay Kumar (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:37 AM

WRONG!

India is backward because of too many minorities free loading on India in the name of social justice.

错!

印度落后的原因是有太多少数族群以社会公正的名义增加印度的负担。

honor killings are more
by mohd arshad (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:17 AM | Hide replies

in upper caste

荣誉谋杀在高种姓里更常见。

Proved
by Haramohan Roy (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:07 AM | Hide replies

Again proved that the upper caste Hindus are the most dangerous people in India!

这件事又一次证明高种姓印度教徒是印度最危险的人!

Re: Proved
by fightagaintevils (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:08 AM
Which upper caste?Do you know castewise crime statistics?

哪个高种姓?你知道种姓相关的犯罪统计吗?

Re: Re: Proved
by Haramohan Roy (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:17 AM
I know. Thank you.

我知道,谢谢

Re: Re: Re: Proved
by fightagaintevils (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:21 AM
then stop writing lies.

那么别说谎。

Re: Re: Re: Proved
by Haramohan Roy (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:22 AM
It’s the upper caste people some of whom are often reported to kill their daughters for “honour”! They think that honour is found in killing their own children! What an abominable set of people!

正是高种姓中的一些人经常被报道为了“荣誉”而杀了自己的女儿!他们认为谋杀自己孩子能够带来荣誉!多么可恶的一群人!

Leave Hindooism – Be Cleanse of Castism
by Bigtribe (View MyPage) on Jul 28, 2012 11:53 PM | Hide replies

Caste systems in India is worse than appartheid…

Caste is the means to exploit, abuse, kill and bully over others.

Oh! why cling to caste and still get abused?

Many caste ridden hindooos need liberation in their human lives…

印度的种姓制度比种族隔离更糟糕…

种姓意味着剥削、辱骂、谋杀和欺凌别人

哦!为什么紧握种姓不放,却仍然被骂?

许多受种姓折磨的印度教徒需要人类生命的解放…

Re: Leave Hindooism – Be Cleanse of Castism
by fightagaintevils (View MyPage) on Jul 28, 2012 11:56 PM
Caste system is being painted as evil without proper backing. If ppl are getting abused why still they follow caste even after moving to say, Christianity?Even Hindu religion was not here,I feel caste would have been here in India.

种姓制度被描绘成没有合理支持的罪恶。如果人们被虐待,为什么有人皈依其他宗教后,比如基督教,还遵循种姓制度?这种情况可不涉及印度教,我认为在印度就会有种姓制度的存在。

Re: Leave Hindooism – Be Cleanse of Castism
by Ravs (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:02 AM
Every religion in India has caste system rooted within. What stands for Dalit Christian and Dalit Muslims? Upper caste muslims or christians do not marry dalit counter parts. Let let us keep religion aside and look in to caste system.

印度的每个宗教都有根深蒂固的种姓制度。是什么代表了达利特基督徒和达利特msl?高种姓msl或者基督徒并不会与相应的达利特结婚。让我们把宗教搁在一边,并研究种姓制度吧。

Re: Re: Leave Hindooism – Be Cleanse of Castism
by mohd arshad (View MyPage) on Jul 29, 2012 12:19 AM
there is no dalit muslims..for ur info..muslims are divided in 2 parts shia and sunni

没有达利特msl…供你参考…msl被分为两派:什叶派和逊尼派。

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  1. 非常奇怪的种姓制度,到底是怎么区分的呢?我的意思是同一国人长相特征相似,都泡在大城市人多的地方的话,自己不承认,别人怎么知道他的高种姓低种姓? ❓

    • 听说外貌上是可以看出来的。
      高种姓是征服者雅利安,比较接近白人,低种姓是被征服的土著,比较黑,千百年以来不通婚,加上物质生活的差距,外貌特征在他们看来应该比较大。

    • 问全名就行了

      一个完整的印度人名字是 姓—名—种姓名。 只要一问全名就知道了。

      种姓名是绑定工作的。所以一问种姓名就知道是干什么工作的。自然也就能推导出高低

  2. 种姓制度最初是根据肤色划分的,颜色越浅种姓越高,最高种姓为婆罗门,主要是僧侣宗教神职人员,第二等级是刹帝利,主要由军事和行政人员组成,第三等级叫吠舍,是自由平民。这三个等级几乎全是外来征服者雅利安人,但是肤色不一。第四等级为达利特,被政府的印度土著,贱民

    • 第三等级吠舍从事商业;第四等级是首陀罗,从事农业手工业;不入四等级的编外等级才是达利特即“贱民”

  3. 可怜的一对夫妻。男的身受重伤还可能要吃官司,女的则可能被自己的亲人杀死。无辜的孩子也受到袭击。
    民主在哪里?自由在哪里?

  4. 印度虽然脱离英国的统治,但还是没能脱离游牧民族雅利安的统治,独立的不彻底啊。
    驱除鞑虏,恢复-古印度!

  5. 都什么年代了还有种姓制度,无语了,应该靠自己的双手努力才能改变呀,真的好像是奴隶制国家呀而不是民主国家,亏了我们国家没有学这样的民主,要不像我这种原先出身贫苦的农民家庭孩子可怎么办呀,支持中国,相对比我感觉我们真的太幸福了

  6. 三哥家的人民真可爱呀,就不知道哪有压迫哪里就有反抗吗,就这样对待自己人民的高等级姓的人,要是在中国早就被推翻了。难道这就是甘地的非暴力不合作的思维吗?这种思想最后把你们都害了,印度民众觉醒吧拿起你们自己的武器保护自己吧 😀