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【评论更新】印媒:中国军队进入拉达克,拿走监控摄像头

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三泰虎7月10日译文,印度时报9日文章《中国军队进入拉达克,拿走监控摄像头》。文章称,从阿邦到拉达克,解放军继续沿着未定实控线刺激印度军队。然而6月17日发生在拉达克东南的又一次“入侵”事件中,解放军一支巡逻队在至关重要的楚玛尔哨所地区“越界”进入印度领土,拆除一个印度监控摄像头后将其拿走。印方在丘舒尔Spanggur Gap举行的一次国旗会谈中,印藏边界警察部队提出强烈抗议,后来摄像头于7月3日被归还。

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
外文标题:Chinese troops enter Ladakh, take away surveillance camera
外文地址:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Chinese-troops-enter-Ladakh-take-away-surveillance-camera/articleshow/20991959.cms

印度时报原文配图

印度时报原文配图

NEW DELHI: The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) continues to needle Indian forces all along the unresolved Line of Actual Control (LAC) – from Arunachal Pradesh to Ladakh – despite all the “good atmospherics” generated during the recent visits of Chinese premier Li Keqiang here and defence minister A K Antony to Beijing.

In yet another incursion in south-eastern Ladakh, a PLA patrol crossed into Indian territory in the crucial Chumar post area and took away an Indian surveillance camera after dismantling it on June 17.

新德里:从阿邦到拉达克,解放军继续沿着未定实控线刺激印度军队——尽管中国总理li最近访印以及印度国防部长安东尼最近访问北京营造了“友好气氛”。

然而6月17日发生在拉达克东南的又一次“入侵”事件中,解放军一支巡逻队在至关重要的楚玛尔哨所地区越界进入印度领土,拆除一个印度监控摄像头后将其拿走。

The video camera was returned only on July 3 after the Indian Army-ITBP team lodged a strong protest during a flag meeting at Spanggur Gap in Chushul sector on June 19.

The Chumar post on the Ladakh-Himachal Pradesh border was the bone of contention even during the 21-day military face-off in April-May, which saw the two rival armies pitching tents and indulging in banner drills after PLA troops intruded 19 km into the Indian territory in the Depsang Bulge area of the Daulat Beg Oldi (DBO) sector.

Though Chumar is some 250-km south of DBO, Indian observation posts and surveillance cameras there have for long irked the PLA since they can “look” into Chinese territory and track troop movements there.

6月19日,在丘舒尔Spanggur Gap举行的一次国旗会谈中,印藏边界警察部队提出强烈抗议,后来摄像头于7月3日被归还。

拉达克-喜马偕尔邦边界上的楚玛尔哨所是争议的焦点,即便在4月至5月的21天军事对峙期间也是如此。当时,解放军在斗拉特别奥里地(DBO)德普桑地区侵入印度领土19公里,两军随后发生帐篷对峙并竞相向对方拉横幅。

虽然楚玛尔位于斗拉特别奥里地南部大约250公里处,但该处的印度观察哨所和监控摄像头早已激怒解放军,因为从那里能窥视中国领土以及中国军队的行动。

In fact, the main pre-condition laid down by the PLA to withdraw from Depsang during the face-off was that India should dismantle the temporary bunkers it had constructed in Chumar. The crisis was finally defused on May 5 after India dismantled what it called “a tin shed” at Chumar and the PLA troops simultaneously withdrew from Depsang. “Chumar is one of the few sectors in Ladakh where our positions and supply lines are much more advantageous than the PLA,” said an officer.

The June 17 incursion saw the PLA patrol cross over into what India perceives to be its side of the LAC and slash the wires of the cameras installed there, which fed live images to the Indian post some 5-km to the rear. On noticing the PLA activity, a joint Army-ITBP patrol also rushed to the area but by then, the PLA patrol had withdrawn with the dismantled camera.

事实上,解放军从德普桑撤离的先决条件是印度应当拆除其在楚玛尔构筑的临时地堡。印度于5月5日在楚玛尔拆除所谓的一个“铁硼”后,解放军同时从德普桑撤离,危机最终得以解除。“楚玛尔是拉达克地区少数几个我方位置和供给线对解放军保持很大优势的地区之一,”一位官员说。

6月17日的入侵见证了解放军巡逻队”越界”进入印度视为己方实控线一侧的领土,并砍断摄像头的电线,该摄像头记录着印度哨所后面5公里内的实时画面。注意到解放军的活动后,印度军队和印藏边界警察部队的一支联合巡逻队匆忙赶往这一地区,但解放军巡逻队已经带着被拆除的摄像头撤离了。

“There was no confrontation or face-off. But the matter was strongly raised at the June 19 flag meeting. So, in the next flag meeting on July 3, they returned the camera,” he said.

Incidentally, India has recorded well over 600 “transgressions” by PLA troops across the LAC – from Arunachal Pradesh to Ladakh – in the last three years. Indian troops also aggressively patrol to what they feel too be their “perception” of where the LAC lies.

During Antony’s visit to China from July 4 to 7, the two countries discussed a slew of measures to maintain and strengthen “peace and tranquility” along the LAC. To further boost de-escalatory mechanisms, India and China are also discussing a new Border Defence Cooperation Agreement (BDCA) proposed by China earlier this year.

“(双方)并未发生对抗或者对峙,但这一事件在6月19日的国旗会谈被强硬提出来,随后他们在7月3日举行的下一次国旗会谈中归还了摄像头,”他说。

凑巧,在过去3年里,从阿邦到拉达克,印度已经记录下了解放军超过600次的“越界”事件。此外,印度军队也大胆地在中国视为己方实控线一侧的地方巡逻。

安东尼7月4日至7日访华期间,两国讨论了一系列措施,旨在保持和加强实控线沿线的“和平与安宁”。为了巩固现有边界机制,印度和中国还讨论了中方今年早些时候提出的《边防合作协议》(BDCA)。

“The revised BDCA draft submitted by China is now being examined,” said an official. The defence ministry was perturbed by the earlier draft since it suggested that both sides should freeze troop and infrastructure levels along the LAC.

This when India is now belatedly trying to counter the major military infrastructure built by China all along the LAC over the last couple of decades. Moreover, the MoD is in the process of getting the Cabinet Committee on Security’s final nod for raising a new mountain strike corps (40,000 soldiers), apart from two “independent” infantry brigades and two “independent” armoured brigades, to plug operational gaps along the LAC as well as to acquire “some ground offensive capabilities” against China.

“中国提交的经修正后的边防合作协议正在审查中,”一位官方说。国防部长对早先的草案感到忐忑不安,因为该草案建议双方沿着实控线冻结军队巡逻和基础设施建设。

虽然姗姗来迟,但印度正试图反击中国过去几十年来沿着实控线大量修建的军事基础设施。更重要地是,国防部正寻求内阁安全委员会最终同意增加部署一支新的山地打击军(40000士兵),此外还要新建两支独立步兵旅和两支独立装甲旅来弥补实控线沿线的作战差距,以及对中国取得“一些地面进攻能力”。

以下是印度网民的评论:

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Ravichandran Rajamannar (BLR)
Anthony – Act tough with China
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安东尼,对中国采取强硬行动吧。

Ramesh Sargam (Unknown)
Let the Chinese take away any number of surveillance cameras. Not an issue. But the main issue is let them not take away our land by incursion.
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中国人想拿走多少监控摄像头就拿走吧,这不是一个问题,关键是别拿走我们的领土。

Hateful Comments ()
lol, I bet those cameras captured the face of the perpetrator who stole the surveillance device, now Indian army will attack China and find that guy and bring him to justice……..NOT
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LOL,我敢打赌摄像头拍摄下了偷走监控装置的作恶者的面孔,印度军队将攻打中国并找到那个家伙,然后将其绳之以法……..

kishorethakrar3 thakrar (uk)
And what is the army & government doing?
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军队和政府在干什么?

KMR. (Overseas)
I would prefer Chinese takeover rather than Italian mafia rule!
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宁愿让中国人接管,也不愿意让意大利黑手党统治!

Kargosh (Patiala)
Kurshit will now go and clean Communist leaders shoes shamelessly.
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库尔希德将不知羞耻地去帮gcd领导人擦干净鞋子。

chandamama2000 (Guntur)
Stop adventurism on neighbours comrade!

同志,停止对邻国奉行冒险主义!

kishorethakrar3 thakrar (uk)
Better to fit every congress/upa mp in the cameras and encourage the chinese to take them all.

最好把国大党议员统统装进摄像头里,然后鼓励中国人把他们统统带走。

AK K (del)
The cameras were CHINESE any way…… 🙂
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不管怎样,摄像头本来就是中国人(造)的…… 🙂

N A V I (pluto(west))
As we are being silent and we dnt counter attack, all are playing with us!!! I dnt knw what condition beyond this is needed for retaliation!!

我们保持沉默,不作出反击!大家都来玩弄我们!不知道要怎么样才会达到有必要采取报复的程度!

Patel Amit (vadodara)
We must ask at least our camera back. .. …
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至少得把摄像头要回来……

Rakesh (Bhubaneswar)
no worries, they will return after duplicating it. as they master in duplicate products.

别担心,他们仿制后就会归还的,他们最擅长仿制产品了。

Bharatt Solanki (India)
Sooner there would be a news that,” Chinese troops crossed the border and snatched away the guns of soldiers…Soldiers being in dilemma are waiting for Delhi’s approval whether to fire or not or further course of action…..!!!!” As we are blessed with Angreji, I fear one day my grandson would be fluent in Chinese……!!!!
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迟早会有这样的消息传出:中国军队越过边界,夺走了印度士兵的枪…..进退两难的印度士兵等着德里批准是否开枪,或者等候进一步行动的命令!承蒙Angreji保佑,恐怕总有一天我的孙子将会说流利的中文!

truth (hyderabad)
this is waht happen to country when 20% of population are tratiors and rest are fooled by sicular forces…god save hindustan.
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如果一个国家20%的人口是叛徒,其余被世俗力量所愚弄,那么就会发生这样的事情…..上帝拯救印度斯坦吧!

Satendra Kumar (Greater Noida)
In 1950s it was India who voted in favour of China to make it a part of UN. India also withdrew the case against China regarding Tibbat. It is the result of foolishness of that time.
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1950年代,正是印度投了赞成票,中国才成为了联合国的一员。此外,印度还撤销了有关xz的对华提案。看来当时的愚蠢造就了今天的结果。

punit1255 (DELHI)
Rahul this is your families contribution to India
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拉胡尔,这就是你们家族对印度的贡献。

Ranita Ray (Delhi)
India is a coward nation. We will have to live with this shame.
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印度是一个懦弱的国家,我们将不得不生活在耻辱中。

punit1255 (DELHI)
Voting for Congress shall ensure we too shall be prisoners of War in China
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只要给国大党投票,就能确保我们成为中国的战俘。

Kranthi S (Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh)
I dare the chinese to vandalize out parliament and take away our PM
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我谅中国人不敢摧毁我们的议会并带走我们的总理。

Whzzman (Bangalore)
What does the world think of India as an risiing power, China shares its boudnary with Russia also. China couldn’t dare to enter Russian border, where Russia has 11,000 Nukes more than USA does with 9,000 nukes. Congress in more worried and want to enter Gujrat, Tamil Nadu, Bihar and Uttar Pradesh, than China does for India.
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世界将如何看待印度这一个崛起中的大国!中国也与俄罗斯接壤,但她压根就不敢越过俄罗斯边界,俄罗斯有11000枚核武器,比美国的9000枚还多。看来,相比中国急着进入印度,其实国大党更急着将势力带入古吉拉特邦、泰米尔纳德邦、比哈尔邦和北方邦。

M.Parvel (Location)
The big mistake of India is, They just kept quiet when Chinni’s occupied Tibet. Nehru’s blunder is giving endless nightmare to our Nation. Had it been Indira gandhi as PM of the nation at that time, INDIA would have been kicked out Chinni.
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印度的最大错误是其在中国佬“占领”xz时保持沉默。尼赫鲁的大错给我们国家带来了无休止的噩梦。要是当时的总理是英迪拉·甘地,印度就会把中国佬踢出去。

varun (delhi)
PLA soldier 1. ” chi cha cho ching chong” ( Take this camera ) PLA Soldier 2. ” hu chi cha hu hu hu ” ( Its made in china and of no use return it )
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解放军士兵1:“ chi cha cho ching chong”(拿走摄像头);

解放军士兵2:“hu chi cha hu hu hu”(这是中国产的,没啥用,还了吧)

【三泰虎注:真心不懂得引号里面的意思,可以肯定不是印地语】

Talking Tree (())
Khangress has made India into a prostitute.
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国大党让印度成为了一个婊子。

Manish Vaid (Los Angeles)
So basically its like MMS was sitting and watching at the Chumar post…the chinese came, slapped him in the face and take away his glasses….n he started crying!!!
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所以情况基本类似这样:辛格坐在楚玛尔哨所观察,中国人过来扇了他一巴掌,并拿走他的眼镜…..然后他就开始哭了!

Don Pedro (Goa)
Just shoot them next time they croos the border. Chinese troops did this, Chinese troops did that… wtf!
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下次要是再越界就毙了他们。中国军队今天这样,明天又那样…….到底要闹哪样!

robustkumar (Location)
What can India do against such a powerful army ?
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印度能拿如此强大的军队怎么样?

Ketan Shah (Unknown)
Being Indian we must avoid using Chinese goods………..Must avoid MADE IN CHINA goods even though its cheaper and use made in India to even boost our economy……….USE INDIAN BE INDIAN
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作为印度人,我们务必拒绝使用中国货…….即使更便宜,也要避开中国货。大家一起用印度货,我们的经济就会进步………..印度人就该用印度货!

indian ()
India should BOMB!!! Shanghai. Enough is enough, fight to the last man.Launch all our weapons towards the Dragon. The Indian Tiger is strong. We should launch a 1,000 plane attack at night time, they have small eyes wont be able to see us. hahahaha. Tarun Verma Patel
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受够了受够了,印度应该轰炸上海,我们必须战斗到最后一人,把我们的武器统统瞄准中国龙。印度老虎还是很强大滴,深夜准备好1000架飞机用于发动攻击,他们的眼睛够小的,看不到咱们,哈哈……..

imran3000 pak (City of Lahore)
I thought India had army, I guess in Bollywood only
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我想印度的军队仅存在于宝莱坞电影里。

【三泰虎注:可以从这里观看印度军队的骁勇善战,电影描述的是1962年中印战争,同时可以从中一窥印度电影中的中国军队形象】

Ashok (andheri)
OH NO……………..Not Again. Now they will produce the same thing in thousands and sell it back to India @100/- Rs. a piece.
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哦不…..够了,他们将会大规模仿制这个摄像头,然后以100卢比的单价卖回印度。

Aryabhata (Kusumapura)
Kick out chinese workers from Jama Masjid metro site in delhi.
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把在德里Jama Masjid地铁工地修地铁的中国工人赶出去。

Vk (Hyd)
What was the indian army troop doing while this incident was taking place? Playing chess?
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事情发生时印度军队在干什么?下棋?

Marutirtha Roy (Danbury, Connecticut)
Stop wasting time guys..we{our old leaders and poor army} are too afraid of chinki’s so nothing can be done
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各位,别浪费时间了,我们(年老的领导人和可怜的军队)怕中国佬怕得要死,根本就没有法子嘛

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  1. 既然是未定实控线,那么就不存在越界。
    既然是争议地区,你敢装监控,俺们就敢拆了它。
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    没看到摄像机后面写着:Made In China ,需要仿制吗?
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    刷新了N次,还是沙发,高处不胜寒呐!!!

  2. 报告,中国军队进入达拉克就像自己家一样,请求上级再拨个几百亿美元用于购买装备。额,我的瑞士银行账号是:******。打进来吧,我会买的。

  3. 更重要地是,国防部正寻求内阁安全委员会最终同意增加部署一支新的山地打击军(40000士兵),此外还要新建两支独立步兵旅和两支独立装甲旅来弥补实控线沿线的作战差距,以及对中国取得“一些地面进攻能力”。
    ……………
    这是在找死。

    • 英国人曾经总结印度黑鬼的特点,称呼它们:不挨揍不舒服斯基
      所以用大炮轰用棒子抡,各种乱揍
      很有效果吧
      现在印度黑鬼还乐颠地帮着大阴帝国办运动会呢,还得意自己会正宗英语呢
      被西方胡萝卜加大棒子忽悠得三百五十年没找着北

  4. 中国应该发动一场战争 即缓解内部矛盾 又可以震慑敌胆 再为中国换来十数年和平发展时间

    中国正处在社会转型全面崛起的关键时间 发起一场闪电战 损失1到2年的发展代价 换回再一

    个十年黄金期 印度其实是很好的对象 人傻 懦弱 装备龊

    • 我支持打小日本,三哥不能打,两个都是有核武器的国家,又是人口大国。再说了,如果三哥加人凹霉的联盟围堵中国,那后果不敢想象

        • 打鬼子是国仇家恨,是整个民族洗刷耻辱的事。。。。。。。。
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  5. AK K (del)
    The cameras were CHINESE any way……
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    、、、、、、、、、、、、、、、、、、、、、、、、、 😯

  6. 既然印度人这么喜欢挑衅,这么渴望战争,那我们就干一仗吧
    看印度嘴炮媒体给印度黑鬼刺激的,最近都没空LJ了,整天唧唧歪歪的真让人捉急,

  7. 印度人想要整个世界,因此怀疑整个世界,这个作死的国家!希望他们下次选择人民党,希望这帮傻叉尽快动手跟中国动手做个彻底了断!届时希望政府不要再次因任何原因主动停战撤军了,直接肢解印度,也可以直接接管这个作死的国家,我们也可以掌控印度洋。呵呵。。。印度婆罗门黑鬼们希望你们准备好自己的坟墓,以免到时被扔进达利特人的茅坑。。。

  8. We must ask at least our camera back. .. …
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    至少得把摄像头要回来……
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    居然还有个点“赞同”的,笑抽了,。

  9. AK K (del)
    The cameras were CHINESE any way…… 🙂
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    不管怎样,摄像头本来就是中国人(造)的…… 🙂
    三哥这句话说的有点无奈,感觉还是有道理的,希望印度政府正视历史,积极和中国政府耐心的磋商,尽快解决领土问题

  10. 受够了受够了,印度应该轰炸上海,我们必须战斗到最后一人,把我们的武器统统瞄准中国龙。印度老虎还是很强大滴,深夜准备好1000架飞机发动攻击,他们的眼睛够小的,看不到咱们,哈哈……..
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    我也是这么想的,我们来干一仗吧,我很捉急
    不揍扁印度就是不清醒,整天YY

  11. 受够了受够了,印度应该轰炸上海,我们必须战斗到最后一人,把我们的武器统统瞄准中国龙。印度老虎还是很强大滴,深夜准备好1000架飞机发动攻击,他们的眼睛够小的,看不到咱们,哈哈…….. :mrgreen:
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    看这泡嘴,不用1000架飞机,1000张这样的嘴都能把上海给喷灭了吧 :mrgreen:

  12. 三哥很容易情绪化,分析问题特别肤浅,也很容易被宣传同化,搞传销的应该去印度发展业务,这市场潜力巨大 :mrgreen:

  13. 我在想、如果有人也把国人阅读文章后的评论发到印度某论坛上、又会是怎样的一番景象呢?…….

  14. 1950年代,正是印度投了赞成票,中国才成为了联合国的一员。此外,印度还撤销了有关xz的对华提案。看来当时的愚蠢造就了今天的结果。

    这个三哥历史课应该重新学一遍。
    中国是联合国创世国之一。 1971年,土共被非洲兄弟抬着进了联合国,老蒋被撵出联合国. 三哥的1950我不理解。。。。或许是我理解错了,有没有历史专家给我解释一下。

    • 印度历史与众不同的。只有愚蠢的非印度种地球人才认为联合国创建时,印度这个创始会员国还是殖民地 😛

  15. 我给虎哥解释一下”chi cha cho ching chong” 和 “hu chi cha hu hu hu”,这几个字其实没有任何实际含义,只是在模拟中文的发音,英文语境里经常用这种方式代指某句听不懂的中文。不妨搜一下“Ching Chong”