从这里了解印度人对中国的看法

印度一电厂去年就趴窝了,一直在等中国工程师前来维修

2013-02-01 14:30 44个评论 字号:

印度哈利亚纳邦亚穆纳讷格尔电厂去年就停止了运转,正等待中国工程师前来维修。三泰虎2月1日译文,据印媒报道,中国工程师将维修装机容量达300兆瓦的亚穆纳讷格尔电厂的第二个机组,该机组自从去年以来就停止了运转。哈利亚纳邦电力部长亚达维说,该厂是基于中国技术建造的,预计维修后即可在二月底投入运转。亚达维说,中国15名工程师本月底将来到哈利亚纳邦解决亚穆纳讷格尔电厂突然出现的问题。电厂开始正常运转后,工程师才会离开。

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
原文标题:Chinese engineers to repair Haryana power plant
原文链接:http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-01-25/india/36547737_1_coal-linkages-power-plant-300mw

印度哈利亚纳邦亚穆纳讷格尔电厂

【三泰虎注:原文只节选前半部分】

CHANDIGARH: Chinese engineers will repair the second unit of 300MW capacity of YamunaNagar power plant, which is non-functional since last year.
Haryana power minister Ajay Yadav said the plant, which is based on Chinese technology, is expected to be functional by February-end after it is repaired.

昌迪加尔:中国工程师将维修装机容量达300兆瓦的亚穆纳讷格尔电厂的第二个机组,该机组自从去年以来就停止了运转。哈利亚纳邦电力部长亚达维说,该厂是基于中国技术建造的,预计维修后即可在二月底投入运转。

Yadav said 15 engineers from China will come to Haryana by month-end to resolve the problem cropped up at Yamuna Nagar power plant.

Engineers will remain here till power plant start running properly, he added.

亚达维说,中国15名工程师本月底将来到哈利亚纳邦解决亚穆纳讷格尔电厂突然出现的问题。

电厂开始正常运转后,工程师才会离开,他补充说。

The power plants at Yamuna Nagar and Khader (Hisar) were fitted with Chinese machinery.

Ajay Singh Yadav said Yamunanagar thermal power plant started functioning in 2008-09 but last year the plant stopped generating power because of fault in Chinese rotor which could not be repaired in India.

亚穆纳讷格尔和卡德尔电厂安装的是中国发电机。

亚达维说,亚穆纳讷格尔火力发电厂在2008-09年度开始运转,去年由于中国发电机转子出现问题而停止了发电,印度解决不了。

以下是印度网民的评论:

Ashish (punjab)
Shame that we are using Substandard Chines technology. Our politicians have sold us out
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真丢脸,我们居然用次等的中国技术,政客把我们出卖了。

EMMGEE (qatar)
Coal based power plants have no bright future.!!!!
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烧煤的发电厂没有光明的未来!

coalman (India) replies to mganapat2003
Coal is the cheapest and largest available energy in the world. Coal reserves are estimated for another 200 years and more,whereas fossil oil will be exhausted in next 50 years. The New technology of converting coal into gas by heating is the future as it is more efficient and less polluting.

煤炭是世界上最便宜和储量最大的能源。煤炭储量估计还能再用上200年或者更久,而石油50年后就会耗尽。通过加热把煤炭转化为煤气的新技术才是未来趋势,这样更有效,污染更少。

devadas (salem)
When our BHEL is capable of executing many a mega power plants aboard, why the state Govt, went for Chinese undertaking? Further without training our people in the maintenance and repair work, how the state electricity board allowed the plant to be commissioned? Pity we aspire to be a super power.
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印度巴拉特重型电气有能力运转许多大型电厂,为何政府要去找中国企业?还有,我们的人没有接受维护训练,国家电力局怎么会允许这家电厂投入发电?可怜地是我们还在渴望成为超级大国。

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

swatant (ind )
Horrible! National security concern! Poor infrastructure! Inability to see domestic opportunity! Inability to utilize existing domestic skill!!!! You will all be punished!!
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好可怕!国家安全令人担忧!可怜的基础设施!看不到国内的机会!无力利用国内已有的技术!你们会受惩罚的!

MURTHY (mumbai)
Cheap chinese equipments give trouble because of poor quality. They are OK for one time use items and not for durable consumer goods or production facilities. With BHEL and other indian made equipments problems are much less.
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中国设备价格便宜,质量低劣,会带来麻烦。一次性的产品倒还可以,但耐用消费品或者生产设备就不行了。印度巴拉特重型电气和其他印度公司生产的设备出现的问题会少得多。

ananya sinha (Patna)
Shame on Indian Government, don’t you have any engineer that you need to call someone from China?
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印度政府可耻,难道就没有一名工程师可用,以致于你要从中国叫人?

MURTHY (mumbai) replies to ananya sinha
They supplied the faulty equipment , so they have to repair free of cost
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他们提供的设备出了问题,当然要其免费维修。

Gurmail Gill (Goa) replies to ananya sinha
What is wrong with having the company that supplied the machinery fix the problem? There is probably a maintenance agreement for a few years. India has built hundreds of power plants so obviously we have engineers.
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让提供发电机的公司来解决问题有什么错?很可能签署的协议包括几年的保修,印度建了几百座电厂,明显有不少工程师。

d c (Goa)
Why Chinese engineers and not Indian ?
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为什么要找中国工程师,干嘛不找印度工程师?

MURTHY (mumbai) replies to d c
chinese supplied equipment failed to perform , so under guarantee conditios they have to set right the defects.

中国人提供的设备出了问题,依据保修条款,他们必须前来解决问题。

srk (Mumbai) replies to BRAHMANDAM MURTHY
They take one year to repair? Were they paid total amount and with no penalty clause ? I am sure there were some kick backs involved to allow such cheap equipments from China.

他们要一年来修?已经付了全款?没有罚款条款?我敢肯定,其中肯定有回扣,所以才会允许从中国进口如此便宜的设备。

Mr. Singh (US)
Hang your head in shame……National Shame…
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低头羞愧……国耻……

Ravi Sharma (Hindustan)
Just watch out your power plants r not bugged .
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要小心确保电厂未被安装窃听器。

surinder (chandigarh)
From the experience of Chinese power plant supplied to Indonesia, I can say that Chinese machinery performs below standard. This junk should never be purchased. Its efficiency is low.
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从供应给印尼的中国发电设备来看,我要说中国发电机是次等的,决不能买这种垃圾,效率很低。

NK (Mumbai)
Are we buying Chinese fighter jets next?
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下一步是否要买中国战机?

aak (ind)
I doubt whether the Chinese have any knowledge of their own technology, because most of their technology is cut and paste. Surprising part is our ignorant Politicians opting for such technology. Maybe because of it’s rock bottom price and the huge profit margin it offers to our corporate contractors who import them.
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我怀疑中国人是否有自己的技术,他们的技术大多是“剪切和粘贴”来的。令人吃惊地是无能的政客选择了这样的技术,也许是价格低到爆和中国给了进口其设备的企业承包商巨额利润。

h (b)
it is a warning bell for all using Chinese power equpt. in 2 years plant breaks down so out of warranty? who will pay for repairs?
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给所有使用中国电力设备的企业敲响了一个警钟,电厂两年就趴窝了,过了保修期?谁来为维修买单?

Anju (Toronto)
So the “rotor” doesn’t work , as it is faulty, what do you expect from “Made in China” who decided to have Chinese machinery to be installed in the first place, of all the countries in the world , we got this thing from China? Big Engineering companies of India should wake up and bid for this contract. This story of only chinese engineers can repair this machine is not digestible.
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“转子”不会转了,出故障了,你还能期望“中国产”有什么好的表现,是谁一开始决定安装中国发电机的,世界上那么多国家,我们偏偏买中国的?印度大型工程公司应当反省过来,努力竞标合同。这种只有中国工程师才维修得来的故事着实令人费解。

ykdhanuka (Bangalore)
wow we indians cannot even repair our power plants

哇,我们印度人居然连自己电厂的设备都维修不来。

Sheikh (Khag Budgam Kashmir)
No doubt China make world class hardware But Politician want their shear also, that make thing so bad. China gave you choice to buy future and junk Govt of Haryana Bought Junk, so why blame China.
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毫无疑问,中国有生产世界级的设备,但印度政客也想分一杯羹,事情就这样搞砸了。中国让你选,是要买好的还是要买垃圾货,哈利亚纳邦政府选择买垃圾,所以为何要责怪中国呢。

Amit (Delhi)
Those who think it’s because chinese sub-standard equipment think again. China makes world class equipment as well as useless rubbish. It all depends upon what you wish to buy. Our esteemed politicians ate away all the money and purchased cheap rubbish and of course people think that China is to blame for it – nobody is thinking about the guys who chose to purchase this below standard cheap equipment from China. Who bought all this in the first place?
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那些将其归咎于中国劣质设备的人再想一下,中国有生产世界级的设备,也有生产无用的垃圾,一切取决于你想买什么。我们尊敬的政客侵吞了大笔资金,买进来的是便宜垃圾货,人们当然将其怪罪于中国,没有人会去想当初决定从中国购买这个劣质设备的家伙。到底是谁一开始决定购买这些设备的?

Girish (USA)
That’s how MADE IN CHINA things work. They are cheap but breakdown as often. Intelligent people should pay more upfront with ZERO to MINIMAL breakdown. I, personally, read the label, and if it is MADE IN CHINA, I stay away from it and pay little higher to get good products. If it is TISSUE PAPER then I buy it from Pakistan, because they are the tissue paper country !!!
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中国产的东西就是这样子的,便宜是便宜,但经常坏。明智的人应当多花些钱去买不会坏或者很少坏的产品。个人而言,我买东西时会看产地标签,如果是中国产,我就敬而远之,多花些钱买好的。如果是买纸巾,我会买巴基斯坦产的,因为巴基斯坦本来就是那种用完即扔的“纸巾”国家!

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Prasad Prakash (Mumbai)
We have best electrical engineers in India. Infact, our expertise in the field of electrical engineering are far superior than even IT, civil or nuclear tech. But our govn’s indifferent attitude has failed and betrayed our electrical engineers for decades. Govn never created enough opportunities for them niether motivated them. And now they using china’s low quality technology for our power plants. No wonder they are non-functional for most of the time!!!
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印度有最好的电气工程师,我们在电气工程方面的技术也远远优于在IT、民生或核能方面的技术,但几十年来,我们政府的漠然态度让人失望,背叛了国内工程师。政府从来没有为其创造足够多机会,也未对其进行鼓励,如今却在电厂中用中国低等技术,难怪政府大多数时候是失灵的!

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  1. 留言是种美德,写点什么…Ravi Sharma (Hindustan)
    Just watch out your power plants r not bugged .
    Agree (3)Disagree (1)Recommend (3)

    要小心确保电厂未被安装窃听器。

    谁会在厂房装窃听器?听阿三随地大小便吗? 😐

    • 不能说中国人做的劣质。。只能说许多东西都是中国人制造。。所以肯定会被说不好。印度这帮穷鬼没钱还想买高档货,如果把制造业放在他们国家,我敢说现在全世界会说印度产品劣质。韩国、日本都是这么过来的才步入创新。让阿三说去吧。。他们除了YY就只会原地踏步,我们在别人的诟病中前进

      • 中国产品质量差?俄罗斯制造水平强不强?卖给他们阿三的东西好不好?卖给他们的武器不是这有问题就是那有问题,你能说人家制造水平差吗?中国这叫因人施物,最好的东西国家自己用,其次的才给欧美……最烂的留给阿三,因为他们这种人才配得上!

  2. 印度穷鬼就只配用劣质货。又想马儿跑,又想马儿不吃草。尼玛有这种好事,还能让你印度人占去?

    • 这三哥确定印度人的智力能制造30兆瓦以上的电机?
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      MURTHY (mumbai)
      Cheap chinese equipments give trouble because of poor quality. They are OK for one time use items and not for durable consumer goods or production facilities. With BHEL and other indian made equipments problems are much less.
      Agree (3)Disagree (3)Recommend (1)

      中国设备价格便宜,质量低劣,会带来麻烦。一次性的产品倒还可以,但耐用消费品或者生产设备就不行了。印度巴拉特重型电气和其他印度公司生产的设备出现的问题会少得多

  3. 印度,欧洲,美国都是批评主义,说白了就是打嘴炮,你不符合他的心意,他就想法贬低你呗。其实这种东西挺没意思的,真到动手的时候,三哥可不要跪地求饶啊。

  4. 记住,一份价钱一分货,有钱买好的,没钱买次的,印度人貌似不明白这个道理哦,美欧日给你价格有接受得了吗?

  5. Ravi Sharma (Hindustan)
    Just watch out your power plants r not bugged .
    Agree (3)Disagree (1)Recommend (3)

    要小心确保电厂未被安装窃听器。
    可笑,被中国吓唬到这种程度? :mrgreen:

  6. 中国产的东西就是这样子的,便宜是便宜,但经常坏。明智的人应当多花些钱去买不会坏或者很少坏的产品。个人而言,我买东西时会看产地标签,如果是中国产,我就敬而远之,多花些钱买好的。如果是买纸巾,我会买巴基斯坦产的,因为巴基斯坦本来就是那种用完即扔的“纸巾”国家!

    印度有最好的电气工程师,我们在电气工程方面的技术也远远优于在IT、民生或核能方面的技术,但几十年来,我们政府的漠然态度让人失望,背叛了国内工程师。政府从来没有为其创造足够多机会,也未对其进行鼓励,如今却在电厂中用中国低等技术,难怪政府大多数时候是失灵的!

    哈哈,自大的黑鬼阿三,请继续保持下去,我都习惯了 :mrgreen:

    来吧!让我们战个痛快!让我们狠狠的揍你们的黑屁股!看会不会清醒过来? :mrgreen:

    • 就电厂设备而言,质量嘛,一般般。能用罢了。很多地方考虑不周或者质量有瑕疵之类的。结果就是貌似省了钱(其实算算最后一般也能省点),但是维修很麻烦,累死了一线工人。

      • 你有事故率的具体数据吗?我只知道中国的火力发电在世界上面还是不算差的,和日本这种节约能源的国家比起来,都比较接近,利用率算是比较高的了。

  7. 其实什么东西到了印度,也就不经用了,俄罗斯的设备一向是以傻大黑粗,但是经造为特点的,但是到了印度,飞机仍然是不断地往下掉!

  8. 黑鬼瘪三的口吻好像阿三国是富裕发达国家,技术先进,老百姓很有钱,所以看不上中国的劣等技术,有钱买欧美名牌产品,真是可笑,最受不了自己还不如别人的时候还看不起别人,这是什么病态逻辑?可是对黑鬼阿三,这很正常,这就是印度黑鬼的民族性,它们根本没这个逻辑

  9. 服了啊 中国的高压电气设备的技术和质量在世界上都是一流的,,自己没钱买我们好货而廉价买了劣质货还跟这瞎BB

  10. 三哥的脑筋真是……没法说。三哥的媒体更是一副帝国派头,虽然记者还在找厕所。

    丫不去问是不是三哥不会操作,反倒追究电机问题。

    听过中企员工在印度的经历,听说手把手教三哥建烟囱,居然还能把烟囱建的七扭八歪。
    而且,还是在同期开工的中日项目完工以后很久才建好。
    所以,我觉得三哥在YY的时候该先测试一下智力水平。

    • 这三哥确定印度人的智力能制造30兆瓦以上的电机?
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      MURTHY (mumbai)
      Cheap chinese equipments give trouble because of poor quality. They are OK for one time use items and not for durable consumer goods or production facilities. With BHEL and other indian made equipments problems are much less.
      Agree (3)Disagree (3)Recommend (1)

  11. 三哥果然不同凡响,购买武器也是全套购买,自己不会维修,电厂又是这样,而且08年的电厂到现在快5年了,出现问题很正常,自己不消化吸收,只能看别人脸色

  12. 三哥的东西坏了,就是他们自己弄坏的!就跟他们买的飞机一样,换了自己产的零件就开始从天上往下掉,最后还赖雇主!!零件规格不一样,能不坏吗,你当那是印度抛饼吗。。。

  13. 一个因为小事故就能造成全国停电的国家,居然有胆量指着一个稳定支撑十几亿人用电的国家技术低劣?
    偏见果然能影响一个人的智商无限降低。

  14. 一个因为小事故就能造成全国停电的国家,居然有胆量指责一个稳定支撑十几亿人用电的国家技术低劣?
    偏见果然能影响一个人的智商无限降低。

  15. 看过天涯里一个国内到印建造电厂的总工的文章,里面说在那开工除了应对各种业主的麻烦外,还得雇佣一定比例的当地人员(农民)施工,他们不按中方要求施工,要求拧紧四个螺丝,他们安俩就算完事,还有各种谎言偏执敷衍,当地政府还要赶工期,百度《印度工作杂记》就会了解中国电企在印度的各种遭遇。

  16. 对三哥真的是大跌眼镜。

    看了三哥的回复,竟有超过一半的三哥问,为什么要用中国的发电装备,为什么要等中国工程师来修,还说印度的电器专家是最好的。

    我呸啊!问问三哥,你们国家能造300兆瓦发电机组吗?你们国家能造发电转子吗?
    三哥把发电机组连续运转了2年,中途没有必要的保养和维护,坏了怪产品质量,请问全世界有不坏的机器吗?

    告诉三哥啊,,,现在你们国家有70%的热电发电机组是中国制造的,你们还当是自己国家生产的吗?很可笑啊。。。

  17. 可是什么好东西到了印度会不出问题呢 美国卖给印度的飞机不多 但还是掉啊 俄罗斯的飞机在印度栽跟头那更是家常便饭了 这是一个暴力使用和缺乏维护的问题 那么 一个发电机连轴转四 五年如果维护不利那么当然也会出问题的 从印度无法维修一个发电机可以看出 这个国家机械技术能力有多差 真不明白 这些印度人有什么资格这么自吹自擂

  18. 前几天看过一个去印度做发电厂的网友发的贴子,印度人太懒了,这些发电机在中国能正常运行好多年,在印度很快就坏了,他们不做日常的维护,一直用到坏掉。

    • 你才是这个贴子里唯一清醒的中国人,在中国正常运转的电气设备到了印度就经常坏,原因很简单,印度人真的是又懒又傻,你要指望他们去维护保养,你就错了,这帮黑鬼比猪还懒,比驴还傻!

  19. 这些黑鬼根本不去维护保养,在中国是很普通的维护他们都做不了,或者懒的去做,再结实的东西到印度黑鬼手里,也活不了几天,看看他们进口的苏30MKI,这才几年功夫,几乎全部停飞了,原因就是印度阿三不正确维护使用,而且偷懒耍滑,该保养的根本不保养,该维护的敷衍了事!

  20. 再好的机械都需要保养啊,一天三检是必须得。印度估计没做检查。转子滚珠轴承要上柴油。定期停机全面体检,这样才能保证长久。