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英国网友评论:中国J31战斗机试飞成功

2012-11-01 22:53 24个评论 字号:

英国网友评论中国歼31战斗机试飞成功。据英国《每日电讯报》11月1日报道,中国不到两年内推出的第二种隐形战机J31成功首飞。歼31战斗机正式代号为”鹘鹰“,是由中国沈阳飞机公司研发制造的第五代战机。歼31试飞成功也代表中国成为第二个同时拥有两种第五代原型机的国家,先前只有美国同时拥有F-22和F-35两种五代机。有的英国网友称中国J31战机使用的技术剽窃自先进国家;有的英国网友则称已经过时了,无人机才是未来趋势,所以F-22猛禽隐形战机才会停产。

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原文标题:China ‘makes first test flight’ of new stealth fighter jet
原文链接:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9647722/China-makes-first-test-flight-of-new-stealth-fighter-jet.html

中国歼31战斗机试飞成功(原文图片)

以下是英国网友的评论:

WorthSaying

The next generation of Chinese war planes will be in service for the next thirty years during which time china will build their own large aircraft carriers ( rather than re-fit old soviet ones) so you would expect there to be a naval variant of the J 31.

China will play to her strengths. She will use espionage, blackmail and bribery in order to get the technology required.

中国下一代战机将在未来30年里服役。在该期间,中国会自主建造大型航母(不是翻新苏联的旧航母),所以J31的海军版本值得期待。

中国会发挥自身特长,利用间谍、敲诈和贿赂等手段获得需要的技术。

johngt

At least the Chinese have been spared all those silly R&D costs. Why design and invent when you can simply ‘use’ other country’s designs.

中国人至少省去了研发费用。既然可以简单”使用“其他国家的设计,为什么还要去设计和发明呢?

elephantsittingonyourhead

The poor old Chinese are several generations behind. Before their pilots can even get into their ‘new stealth fighters’ the US will have assassinated them in their beds with drone insects.

可怜的中国人落后几代。在他们的飞行员还没来得及进入”新隐形战机“的座舱前,美国会用无人机将他们杀死在床上。

cheesyboy

Don’t know why everyone’s so scared of China’s military. It’s a myth.

For example, how many aircraft carriers do they have? The answer is one – a refitted Ukrainian hulk, of all things.

China’s army is large, but it needs to be to manage it’s domestic security – a lot of people in China, you know.

不明白为什么大家害怕中国军队。这是一个迷思。

比如,中国有多少艘航母?答案是一艘翻新的乌克兰废船。

中国军队庞大,不过需要保护国内安全——你知道的,中国有许多人。

原创翻译:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

jjh

When will they be getting decent cameras?

他们什么时候会有质量好的相机?

40andgrumpy

We should all start learning to be polite to the Chinese.

我们应该开始学习礼貌对待中国人。

nicky6

nah, their popluation is in decline and who the hell would want to move to China.

他们人口在下降,究竟谁会想搬到中国去。

thisday

Obama says the USA will retain supremacy in the Pacific. The Chinese won’t let him get away with such rhetoric. The Japanese must be feeling very insecure right now.

奥巴马说美国会在太平洋保持霸权。中国人不会让他如此轻易大放厥词的。日本人此刻肯定感到非常不安。

weescamp

And today David Cameron said he was happy about the Chinese taking a stake in owner of Glasgow, Aberdeen and Heathrow airports. The man is a treacherous idiot.

戴维·卡梅伦今天称乐见中国人入股格拉斯哥、亚伯丁和希斯罗机场。这个男人是阴险的傻瓜。

graphic

This smacks of the cold war over again.

有点像冷战又开始了。

Nathan Dowd

The new J-31, brought to you by technologies stolen from from more advanced countries. Much like the rest of the Chinese economy.

J-31战机技术偷自先进国家。中国经济大多是这样建立起来的。

bristoled

I expect the Israelis helped out, like they did when giving US technology to the Chinese via the Lavi aircraft.

And the US is good at shooting itself in the foot: the core – the high technology bit – of many of the US civil engines sold to the Chinese, is basically the same as their military engines…

我认为有以色列人在帮忙。中国仿造以色列的狮(lavi)飞机获得美国技术。

美国是在搬起石头砸自己的脚:许多美国民用发动机的高科技被卖给了中国人,基本上类似军用发动机…

Deadgirl

Funny, the Chinese were saying exactly the same thing about you foreign devils from before the birth of Christ right up until the 18th Century.

可笑,耶稣出生前一直到18世纪,中国人也同样如此说你们这些鬼佬。

elephantsittingonyourhead

Hahahaha! You lost the race pal – and the only way you can keep up now is by stealing our ideas. If you had any technological advantage at any time you failed to make use of it. Now you are just a bunch of bitter losers. Almost everything Chinese that I have bought is broken. It’s rubbish junk.

哈哈!朋友,你们比赛输了——唯一能保持不落后的方法是偷窃我们的创意。以前有技术优势时没有利用起来,现在是一群失败者。我买的几乎每一件中国货都坏了,垃圾货。

thisday

Obviously a blatant Raptor/F-35 rip off.

Now we can see why the Pentagon is so worried about the invasion of Huawei and ZTE into telecommunications. ‘Big Players’ like Alcatel-Lucent, Ericsson etc have lost their markets and we have probably lost our military secrets.

The Chinese can’t tackle the USA head on for a decade. But they can intimidate the Japanese in the meantime and by 2040 the US will be inferior to the Chinese militarily.

Our poor kids, eh?

明显公然剽窃猛禽/F-35

我们现在明白五角大楼为什么要担心华为和中兴入侵美国通信领域。 阿尔卡特朗讯、爱立信等巨头丢失了一些市场,我们可能有失去军事秘密。

中国人十年内无法对付美国,不过在此期间可以恐吓日本人,2040年之前美国在军事上会逊于中国。

我们可怜的孩子,嗯?

原创翻译:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

randal

“by 2040 the US will be inferior to the Chinese militarily. “

LOL! In whose fantasy world?

”2040年之前美国在军事上会逊于中国。“

笑!生活在谁的幻想世界中?

thisday

Nightmare, not fantasy.

Have a good look at Chinese ‘telecommunications’ giants and you’ll see they are ahead of most European and US manufacturers.

But you’re probably correct. Could be nearer 2030.

是噩梦,不是幻想。

看看中国电信巨头,你会发现它们领先大多数欧洲和美国电信设备制造商。

不过你很可能正确。可能更接近2030年。

hurree_jamset_ram_singh

MiG-25 innit.

The Chinese can’t just keep copying Soviet designs and hope they work in the modern world. 🙂

是不是米格-25

中国人不能老是山寨苏联设计的同时,抱着能在现代世界中派上用场的希望。 🙂

upton

Not sure they’ve understood ‘stealth’ – I can CLEARLY see it in the picture.

Back to the drawing board…..

不确定他们是否理解”隐形“的概念——我可以清晰地从图片中看出来。

回炉重新设计吧…

jimbob567

Its already obsolete. Unmanned aircraft are the future. Which is mostly why the F-22 program was cancelled.

已经过时了。无人机才是未来趋势。所以F-22项目才会被取消。

halcyons

That’s not why it was cancelled. The F-22 is purely for a p***ing contest with Russia. It can’t even achieve multi-role status meaning it’s of limited use given how expensive it is.

It has better air to air than the F-35 and better Stealth, but that’s likely it.

那不是被取消的原因。F-22纯粹是要与俄罗斯竞争。无法实现多用途,造价昂贵,用途有限。

空对空能力优于F-35,隐形设计也更好,可能就是这个原因吧。

LithomanII

How much of the technology was stolen by Chi-comm spies?

有多少技术是共党间谍偷来的?

benstead

Good to see that our aid to China has been well spent!

很高兴看到我们给中国的援助被很好地利用起来了!

Will

Just a rip off of the F-22 and F-35. As usual, the Chinese are good at copying things, but absolutely not capable of innovation.

只是剽窃F-22和F-35。与往常一样,中国人擅长山寨,不过绝对没有能力创新。

ItinerantView

I’d like that to be true,but people said exactly the same things about the Japanese and besides if you look at just about any scientific research from around the world it invariably has a Chinese name on it.You’re kidding yourself if you think the Chinese can’t be innovative.Their disregard of copyright doesn’t help start up tech but that can change.

但愿是真的,不过人们以前也是这样说日本人。此外,看看世界各地的科研,你不可避免会看到中国人的名字。你认为中国人没有能力创新,在开玩笑吧。他们漠视版权不会帮助开启科技创新,不过那是会改变的。

guga

Your statement is reminiscent of what they used to say during the war about how the Japanese couldn’t make good fliers as they didn’t have a sense of balance from being carried around on their mother’s backs.

你的话令人回忆起人们战时如何说日本人培养不出优秀飞行员,因为日本人小时候在妈妈的背上长大,所以没有平衡感。

nicky6

The Chinese had aircraft carrier sized ships navigating the Indian ocean when we where still paddling hollowed out logs.They are good at invention but not at application.

当我们还在划着挖空了的圆木时,中国人已经有航母大小的船只在印度洋航行。他们擅长发明,但不擅长应用。

原创翻译:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

Didier Martins

that’s what people said of the japs in the 60s.
sour grapes.

60年代时,人们就是这样说日本人。

酸葡萄心理。

Will

sour grapes for what? stating the facts? There is a difference between China and Japan. Japan brought in quality engineering gurus in the 50’s in an effort to produce high quality manufacturing. China has no such desire. It’s system values quantity over quality.

酸了什么?阐述事实而已?中国和日本不同。为了生产出高质量的产品,日本50年代时引入了质量工程师。中国没有这样的愿望,它的系统重量不重质。

NinjaMouse

And those engines are a rip from the Mig-29.

发动机剽窃自米格-29

culley

If Pakistan can afford to buy fighter aircraft from China why are we providing them with aid – In my veiw the aid program should be stopped altogether

既然巴基斯坦买得起中国的战机,为什么我们要向巴基斯坦提供帮助。在我看来,援助计划应该完全停止。

WorthSaying

To bribe Zadari into allowing us to replenish our garrisons in Afganistan via land through Pakistan.

And to try to make the next generation of Pakistanis more positive about the west than the current generation.

Both of these objectives are a pointless waste of time and money.

为的是贿赂扎尔达里,让其允许我们通过巴基斯坦向阿富汗驻军提供后勤保障。

还有让巴基斯坦下一代对西方持更正面的看法。

两个目的都没有意义,纯粹是浪费时间和金钱。

d2b

Because EU is forcing us …

因为欧盟强迫我们这样做…

ceri

“The layout is similar, but the material and quality are inferior.”
Doesn’t that just sum up everything that comes out of China these days? But the fools are us for buying it.

”设计类似,但材料和质量劣质“。

这不正好总结了当今中国生产出来的每一件产品的共性吗?不过我们傻傻地在购买。

generalsirpercyroggering

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step? Lao -tzu 604BC – 531BC! They have all the time in the world. How much longer before all of us in the west use nothing but chopsticks and feed on two bowls of rice a day?

老子(604BC-531BC)说“千里之行,始于足下”!他们一直这样做。我们西方人多久会开始每天只使用筷子吃两碗米饭度日?

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  2. 这里看帖的同学请注意,这毕竟是普通英国网民的发言,而且极不了解中国。别因为一些屌丝而评价一个国家,我们还没看见英国的中国通的言论呢。这句话也适用于评价2ch的屌丝们。

  3. 我觉得无人机虽然有主宰未来某一段时间的趋势,但不能改变有人机的龙头地位,战争逐步减退,小范围冲突是无人机的黄金时段,当和平成为主流,人类注意力转向太空,有人驾驶的空天飞行器才是未来航天器的主流。

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  4. 要打败美国其实很简单的,只需要在开战之前发射一枚花生酱导弹过去。然后把他们的战士都弄的花生过敏失去战斗力哈哈哈哈

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