原文标题:China's emerging navy, the next wave of WORRY for India!


China is emerging as a naval entity and India cannot turn a blind eye to this, says West Bengal governor and former National Security Advisor M K Narayanan

China's geostrategic focus has for long been Asia and its traditional thrust towards East and Southeast Asia. Lately, the ambit of its influence has been widening. It is building advantageous power relationships not only in contiguous territories, but even far beyond, including parts of South and Central Asia. This is happening, alongside strengthening of friendship with countries of West Asia and Africa and increasing its presence in several countries in the Indian Ocean littoral and Africa.

Many of its actions go beyond what is required to ensure unhindered access and connectivity of hydrocarbon-rich Asia and Africa to the Chinese seaboard. China has been aggressive in the South China Sea, and Chinese actions vis-a-vis Vietnam and Japan border on near aggression. Several of China's actions, hence, smack of power projection and are leading to a clash of interest with other major countries in the region, including India.





For India, China's inroads into countries on its periphery are disconcerting, to say the least. Chinese influence in Myanmar today is considerable. It is making a major thrust into Thailand, developing a bilateral relationship with that country.

China has developed key interests in Sri Lanka, including helping Sri Lanka to build a major port at Hambanatota. Malaysia is coming under the shadow of China economically. Singapore and Indonesia are important targets of Chinese influence. China is actively wooing Nepal and the Maldives. It is extremely keen to establish a fraternal relationship with Bhutan.

To its West, China has been similarly active. It is strengthening its relations with Iran, and has succeeded in ensuring that this does not damage its relations with Arab and Gulf nations. It is today a factor in power politics in the West Asia region. Its most conspicuous success has been to transform Pakistan into a most reliable ally, developing a close 'lips and teeth' relationship with that country. This includes diplomatic, military and nuclear cooperation.





Special mention needs to be made of China's active involvement in Pakistan's civil and military nuclear programmes. With regard to the former, China has entered into an agreement with Pakistan for the supply of two additional reactors, Chashma III and Chashma IV, contending that the decision to sell two new reactors predates its joining the Nuclear Suppliers Group in 2004.

China's role in the development of Pakistan's military nuclear infrastructure is by now well documented. A Q Khan, the father of Pakistan's nuclear weapons programme himself has acknowledged the crucial role played by China in regard to the supply of enriched uranium, nuclear weapons drawings, and uranium hexafluoride for centrifuges.

Chinese assistance in this area confirms not merely China's perception of Pakistan as a key South Asian ally, but given Pakistan's pronounced hostility to India, underlines its strategic aspect.





In both Afghanistan and Central Asia, China is now moving aggressively taking advantage of the fluid situation prevailing in the region. In both areas, it is exploiting its economic muscle. In the case of Central Asia, the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation -- in which India has only observer status -- is being skillfully utilised to serve as a beachhead for further expansion into the region. As China begins to cast a long shadow across the entire region, the issue for India will be how to convince the weaker states of the region that India offers them an alternative.

Given the assertive foreign policy behaviour of China, the fact that China has become increasingly emphatic in its dealings on broader regional and global issues; China seems more ready than ever to defend its perceived interests against pressures and demands of other players in the regional and international arena, it would thus be myopic for India to display an absence of realism.

This is further buttressed by China's growing military might and the effect that this is having on the strategic landscape. China's economic transformation has facilitated its emergence as a major military power. China's military expenditure (2010) is realistically estimated to be of the order of $119 billion, which is three times as large as India's. It is engaged in a sustained military build up, which is expected to continue over the next few years. Enhanced military prowess, accompanied by a more forceful assertion of its interests, realistically speaking, cannot but adversely affect Indian interests





Already we can see the evidence and effect of China's projection of 'hard power' abroad. A major plank for this has been the expansion of the People's Liberation Army navy, and upgrading of its missile and nuclear forces. Specifically from India's standpoint, the presence of the 1.6 million land-based PLA is a major factor be considered.

The Chinese navy is in the process of becoming transformed into a Blue Water Navy. China is now seeking to gain access to strategically placed advanced naval bases, specially along crucial choke points in the Indian Ocean. The recent attempt to set up a base in the Seychelles is a case in point. This not only enhances its strategic presence, but also serves its economic interests.

The Chinese refrain that the Indian Ocean is not India's Ocean is a wake-up call for India -- even as China deploys its Jin-Class submarines at a base facility in the southern tip of Hainan Island in the South China Sea (which also has an underground facility for housing submarines) propelling China into active involvement in the Indian Ocean region.

With the possible addition of an aircraft carrier in the near future, and armed with attack submarines — both nuclear and diesel electric -- as also a capacity to adopt asymmetric naval tactics, China's emergence as a naval entity cannot any longer be disregarded






by om shanti (View MyPage) on Jan 15, 2012 11:52 PM | Hide replies

Con-party which is sinking the country is bigger threat than Chinese Navy..


Re: ..
by abhishek mawle (View MyPage) on Jan 16, 2012 06:11 AM
I hope china captures India soon, for common Indian man it makes no difference as only Indian dictators will be replaced by Chinese dictators.


by sanjay bhatnagar (View MyPage) on Jan 15, 2012 10:25 PM | Hide replies

this time INDIA will teach him few lessons which china has not imagined even in dreams.


mock of democracy
by amit jain (View MyPage) on Jan 15, 2012 09:42 PM | Hide replies

India has succeded in proving that democracy is not the best form of governance for a country


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Re: mock of democracy
by migtwentyone bis (View MyPage) on Jan 15, 2012 10:00 PM
true jain,i would like to add that india has shown to world,the consequences of what happens when people who are not ready for democracy given on.


India need not worry about China
by Rajendra Rao (View MyPage) on Jan 11, 2012 09:30 AM | Hide replies

What will China gets by taking over India? 1.4 billion people, 50% of them corrupt, polluted waters and air. And not to speak of peaceful people and rizebags.


Re: India need not worry about China
by ashish tiwari (View MyPage) on Jan 15, 2012 09:11 PM
China wants India's land .. not people!! Arunachal Pradesh has vast resources.. that china wants..


Re: India need not worry about China
by Abhijoy Mitra (View MyPage) on Jan 15, 2012 11:30 AM
China increasing millitary power is nothing to worry for our Sonia,Rahul and MMS govt..The great grandson of Nehru will repeat the same blunder of Pdt.Nehru in 1962 by increasing more friendship tie-ups with China..


by sunil Bhandari (View MyPage) on Jan 11, 2012 07:38 AM | Hide replies

India need not worry for China or Pak
Need to worry about present day corrupt politician like Italian madam and her half Porki Son, Mulla Singh, Laloo,Paswan,Dogi Brigade and Mamta Didi.
Ready to sell country for power and money


Less Patriotism among indians.China can take india in 2 months
by kumar (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 10:46 PM | Hide replies

India is nothing against china and that is a reality. if indians don' want to believe this, then they are blindsighted. Ask any one is USA or Europe, they will say that China can defeat India in 2 to 3 months easily. Indian army is nothing in terms of chinese army. Ofcourse adding to the misery are the indian policitians. No one cares about the country including big percentage of indian public. I saw very less number of indians having patriotism where they are ready to do anything for the country. India needs to the following to counter defence China

1) Reduce the size of indian army. Spend more money on training elite forces

2) Reduce the corruption levels atleast by 50%. Nearly 70% of funds are going to corruption. Indian army is the most corrupted as generals and policitians are milking the money in the names of arms buying and expenses etc.

3) Allow US Army to establish bases in india. USA is the only country that China is scared of. Also it benefits india a lot. india has no other option. I am not seeing anything wrong here.

4) Vey less patriotism among indians. The only people joining indian army are when they don;t have any opportunities. Also the respect for military is very less among public

5) Indian generals are generals for namesake. They have expsoure to reading manuals of british army which was written in 1900 time. Apart from that, they don;t have any intelligence

6) Less priority was given to intelligence. Any one can attack india at any time.








Re: Less Patriotism among indians.China can take india in 2 mont
by kumar (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 10:48 PM
Our so called big heads like Chid, Sonia, Pranab etc are busy in deciding whether to form telengana or not. If chid wants to go to bathroom, he has to take permission from madam. If Manmohan singh wants to get up from bed, he needs ok signal from madam. As far as opposition, forget about it. They are worse than Congress


Re: Less Patriotism among indians.China can take india in 2 mont
by Suprasanna Bhat (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 11:25 PM
India is busy containing the terrorists and maoists...the pakis and chinese are bleeding us with thousand cuts...our intel's are overloaded - snooping not just pakis/chinese but even the opposition politicians!!


by lancer (View MyPage) on Jan 11, 2012 12:58 AM | Hide replies

china seems to on self destructive mode,it will be enough for India to maintain minimum deterrence rather than competing with china and filling up Russian and western coffers.


by Abhijeet Kumar (View MyPage) on Jan 11, 2012 12:23 AM | Hide replies

By 2020 India will be a Chinese colony with the Italian Madam as its rubber stamp leader!


by target (View MyPage) on Jan 11, 2012 12:17 AM | Hide replies

we should deploy more submarine near tibet border so that we can attack them easily.


Re: submarine
by David Dak (View MyPage) on Jan 11, 2012 03:10 PM
Submarine near Tibet border? any water there?


Re: submarine
by biswanath roy (View MyPage) on Jan 15, 2012 11:20 AM
target you should be in a mental asylum,do u knowwhat a submarine is?it needswater that too deep ocean water for traversing.


Dear all indian brother please advice
by asif khan (View MyPage) on Jan 11, 2012 12:02 AM | Hide replies

why china should attack india
1. they want land for agriculture ..then buying is more cheaper thancost of war
2.they want 1 more billion to be added to chinees flag ..definately not.
3. they want oil gas or any resource ...definately not they more than us and they are taking it from korean sea africa etc nothing in india of their interst.
4. kind of competition for economy ...definately not they have 60 % of worlds economy dictated by them and india is just one quality shop in their market which is better for them







support indo-sinu good relation
by asif khan (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 11:37 PM | Hide replies

brothers unless we neghebours unite atleast from rest of the world then only we can survive infact indi and chinees army should go and set up bases in gulf africa and russia near the worlds resources to feed their billion population instead of getting in the trap of divide and rule policy of west


by Abhijeet Kumar (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 11:06 PM | Hide replies

Only those people worry about such things who care!

We already have a foreign ruler who has emasculated our defense forces through dormancy.

Losing physical control of India would make no difference to it.

Whether it is Italy or China who ultimately rules India, it is the same thing!




Chinese naval power
by Vijay Shivdasani (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 10:26 PM | Hide replies

Good to have people of stature (sic)writing such articles--gives us an insight.
Yes the Chinese Navy is expanding by leaps and bounds while the Indian Navy is going hoarse asking for a build up of Force-levels. It is wellknown that lead time to induct warships and new systems is long. Wonder what His Excellency the Guv was doing when he was National Security Adviser or did he not know some of these simple truths?
Better late than never--hope some of our policy makers are tuned in.


China is already a superpower and 2nd largest Economy in the worl
by Loga (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 06:35 PM | Hide replies

China Space Research and Military budget is 100 times more then India.If India don't grow in future with more then 10 percent GDP mor then China then very soon all Asia and India will become in control of china and his ally pakistan.
China is already a superpower and 2nd largest Economy in the world.China army is capable to destroy any spy satellites in sky,china has fastest train in the world. India is a very small fry in front of him.
Most powerful country in the world USA is also under 2 trillion debt of China.




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Re: China is already a superpower and 2nd largest Economy in the
by Vortex (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 06:59 PM

Superpower USA was failed to defeat Vietnam.
India's chandrayan mission was more successful than that of chinese.
China's fastest train derailed within fifteen days after implementation.
China's chinese made fighter jet from J series fall in first international show....
USA is the biggest consumer in the world nearly 25% of commodities are consumed by american's..and consumer is the king..
How many chinese brand are global except Lenovo and scrap Huawei..



Never seen rediff showing prowess of Indian navy
by Bharat Khandelwal (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 06:29 PM | Hide replies

I have never seen rediff talking about our great Indian Navy but its a mouthpiece of China's PLA.


This is USA Salesmanship !!!
by ashish agarwal (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 06:21 PM | Hide replies

This is US trying to sell Arms to India by using the tension between China and India. HAHAHAH


by Aniruddha Nath (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 02:43 PM | Hide replies

Ours is a confused lot. We are confused:

1. whether to make friendship with China or USA.

2. Whether doing balancing act with China & USA.

3. Whether sending army officers to China for goodwill visit or cancel the trip

4. Whether counter China's claim on Arunachal by elevating issue of Tibet or bargain.

5. Whether counter China's pearl of string policy by making friendship with lesser allies of China across them like Vietnam, Korea, Japan, Indonesia etc.

6. Whether to support military govt of Burma to check Chinese influence.

7. Whether to support Nepal Communists to check Chinese influence.

8. Whether continue giving shelter to Tibetans or time to stop freebies for them.

9. Whether to confront Chinese delegations in World meets or simply digest whatever humiliation we receive as a part of 'appeasing' mentality( we say it as strategy).

10. What to do with the huge trade imbalance between us & China.

11. Should we talk more as our forefathers did or work more as the Chinese did.

12. Should we take sht like our forefathers did or give it back as the Chinese do.














Re: Confused
by paanchali (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 02:50 PM

before russia's collapse
the friend of russia were our friend
and enemy of russia were our enemy

after russia's collapse
the friend of US are our friend
and enemy of US are our enemy

where is our true friend and foes
or we dont have ability even that whome should we make friendship with




join china
by side arm (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 12:31 PM | Hide replies

Join hands with china and defeat america.. but alas the country is controlled by US kirstan stooges like Maino and antony


Re: join china
by Krishna Bhat (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 01:26 PM
China has attacked us in the past and continues incursions. The US has never attacked us. So why should we try to defeat the US instead of China?


Re: Re: join china
by piri (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 02:48 PM
So let us defeat both the US and China instead !

After all, defeating both of them will be no problem at all for the emerging 'superpower' India !!



by rajan raja (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 10:57 AM | Hide replies

No indian order for F35. USA is upset.


by Kolappa Pillai (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 10:55 AM | Hide replies

Two countries are struggling hard to keep economic power. The defence matters are secret while global economy is concerned. Let us spend on alleviation of corruption so that true Indian is worth more than a Chinese or Pakistani


by Krishna Bhat (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 01:28 PM
For a true Indian to be worth more than a Chinese or a Pakistani, he must be safe from them first.


Who is worried of whom???
by Vortex (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 AM | Hide replies

Chinese articles says that india is developing ICBM's targeting china...When india disclose it's first nuke powered submarine china was worried. Indian army decided to raise mountain divisions china was worried...
I guess for the first time china is taking india seriously


Re: Who is worried of whom???
by vinod vinod (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 10:42 AM
thanks to cong, china is trembling in fear


Re: Who is worried of whom???
by Venugopalan (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 10:54 AM
china is behaving like USA, it knows very well it has nothing to fear from India..it has got the worlds biggest armes forces..the only thing that china is worried about mainland china going the soviet union way..in order to survive they might launch an attack...


by Neeraj Dahiya (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 10:31 AM | Hide replies



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India vs China
by Rajiv Shivashankar (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 09:59 AM | Hide replies

The article is not an eye-opener, but re-iterates what is well known. The sad part is that we have a disfuntional government in India. Every defence deal takes at least a decade to mature, by which time the technology is obsolete. We expect our soldiers to fight, literally, with swords and shield against guns and cannon. Till India realises that it needs to modernise fast, and with cutting edge technology, we will NEVER be a power, forget being a superpower. Comparing ourselves with Pakistan is like comparing the Seychelles with the USA.

Too much expectations, and time lost in evaluation of foreign purchases of arms will cost us a lot. Buy the best today for the forces, and leave military matters to military men. Use the defence forces for fighting the enemy, and internal problems should be tackled by only the police and CISF.
Let us see that first. MK Narayanan should know well. He was, after all, the NSA. Let us heed his call.



让我们先看到吧。 纳拉亚南应该很了解。毕竟,他曾经是国家安全局人员。让我们听从他的召唤。

And why is this surprising?
by Maximus Meridius (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 09:27 AM | Hide replies

China is the second largest economy in the world. Obviously, it's armed forces budget is going to be large, and obviously India is going to be unable to match them until it becomes an equally large economy. However, you also have to remember that every bureaucracy or organization wants one thing: more power, and more money. Same is true with the armed forces. Now that Pakistan military is no match, they are creating a new threat in the form of China. China has not provoked India militarily since 1962, and even then, India provoked them, at least in part (India's forward policy being one of them).

Pakistani millitary establishment has done this for decades: create the fear of India in the public, and get 10-15% of the national budget, and create the impression that if not for them, the whole of Pakistan would have been an Indian colony. India and china have border disputes, but these areas don't have oil or any precious resource. Neither country is likely to go to war over them and hurt their own economy as a result. Obviously, India has to build up its Navy (which historically has been poorly funded). However, such fear mongering is unnecessary, and likely done to get a bigger Naval budget.



Re: And why is this surprising?
by Krishna Bhat (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 01:34 PM
If you say there has been no provocation from China, then why does China arm Pakistan? Also there have been many incursions into Indian territory. As Will Durant said, each civilization must keep its powder dry.


no worry
by ar (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 09:15 AM | Hide replies

what should India do? recruit some more navy fellows ? In modern warfare you do not need too many men. Just develop nuclear weapons and missiles carrying them to any part of the world and have them plenty in stock. test them thoroughly and show to the world. That is enough. No china or USA will touch you. There is no use in having a lot of men carrying guns that are longer than them. Finally, no use of president going in a warship, this president is not going to fight if war starts.


beware china is getting stronger
by navjeet singh (View MyPage) on Jan 10, 2012 08:57 AM | Hide replies

nothing to worry about .eat drink and be merry.
this article should be the concern of Defence Personnels. we civilians can only chat.



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