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印度防卫网:中国探求拒止美军介入台海的系统

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印度防卫网:中国探求拒止美军介入台海的系统。虽然有关中国军事的一切都被列为秘密,包括在基地食堂里的午餐菜单,(但)西方分析家已经能够揭开某些方面一些秘密,比如在中国南海或台湾等方案中击败美国的军事行动。自从1996年美国派出两个航母战斗群,支持被中国导弹试验恐吓的台湾选民以来,反介入/区域封锁(A2/AD)已成为中国的军事焦点。(美国)部署的航母激怒了北京,使得努力阻止美国的军事行动成为了中国未来的挑战。

译者:ngageboy
来源:三泰虎论坛 http://bbs.santaihu.com
外文:http://www.indiandefence.com/forums/china/32670-china-pursues-systems-keep-us-forces-bay.html

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China Pursues Systems To Keep US Forces at Bay

中国探求拒止美军(介入台)海的系统

(译者:此文有可能是美国的钓鱼文章,仅供大家参考和翻译学习。评论请谨慎并注意保密。谢谢!)

TAIPEI — Though everything in China’s military is classified secret, including lunch menus at base canteens, Western analysts have been able to peel away some of the secrecy of several programs geared at defeating a US military campaign in the South China Sea or a Taiwan scenario.

Anti-access/area-denial (A2/AD) has become a focal point for China’s military since 1996, when the US sent two aircraft carrier groups as a show of support for Taiwan during Chinese missile tests designed to intimidate voters. The deployment of the aircraft carriers enraged Beijing, leading to efforts to deter US military operations that challenge China in the future.

The most obvious A2/AD program under development is the DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM), which has entered the initial operational capability stage.

台北——虽然有关中国军事的一切都被列为秘密,包括在基地食堂里的午餐菜单,(但)西方分析家已经能够揭开某些方面一些秘密,比如在中国南海或台湾等方案中击败美国的军事行动。

自从1996年美国派出两个航母战斗群,支持被中国导弹试验恐吓的台湾选民以来,反介入/区域封锁(A2/AD)已成为中国的军事焦点。(美国)部署的航母激怒了北京,使得努力阻止美国的军事行动成为了中国未来的挑战。

(目前)最明显的反介入/区域封锁计划下的发展是(研发出)DF-21D型反舰弹道导弹(ASBM),而且已具备初始作战能力。

The missile is unique in that no other country has successfully developed a conventional ballistic missile capable of hitting a ship. There is a debate within the Western analytical community about whether this missile is capable of performing this task without the proper targeting satellites and electronic countermeasures.

US Navy officials have said they are working on ways of defeating the DF-21D along the kill chain. One possible solution is a plan to replace the AN/SLQ-32 electronic warfare system, which is aboard nearly every US Navy warship, with a prototype system dubbed SLQ-59. Analysts are unsure whether the SLQ-59 is intended as a counter to China’s ASBM and anti-ship cruise missile threats, or is simply part of the US Navy’s Surface Electronic Warfare Improvement Program (SEWIP), possibly the SLQ-32 Block 3T (Transportable EW Module).

In a document dated Jan. 11, the US Pacific Command made an “unusual and compelling urgency” request for 24 prototype SLQ-59s. The document stated that this is a “priority effort due to a newly discovered threat and the need to provide a protective capability to naval ships and their crews in a critically short timeframe.”

该导弹是世界上唯一一种研制成功的,能够攻击舰船的常规弹道导弹。但西方评论界对该导弹在没有正确卫星定位和(强大的)电子对抗(能力下),能否继续执行此任务还处在辩论之中。

美国海军官员说,他们正在研究沿着绞杀链如何击败DF-21D。一个可行的解决方案是用被称为SLQ-59的原型系统,取代几乎所有美海军军舰上都装备的AN/SLQ-32电子战系统。分析家不能确定(换装)SLQ-59的意图是否是专门为了应对中国反舰弹道导弹和反舰巡航导弹的威胁,或者可能只是美国海军正常的电子战改进计划(SEWIP)——SLQ-32 BLOCK 3T(机动电子战模块)的一部分而已。

在一份日期为1月11日的文件中,美太平洋司令部(为部署)24部SLQ-59S原型,作出了一个“不同寻常又令人信服的迫切”要求。该文件指出,“在极短的时间内优先部署是由于发现了新的威胁,同时为了海军舰只、舰员提供保护能力的需要。”

“Based on the law of averages, truth to be found somewhere in the middle, no doubt,” said Bob Nugent, vice president of advisory services at AMI International. Nugent said he tends to lean toward the SLQ-59 being part of the SEWIP, “but there may be some specific threat devices that need a gap filler.”

China also has been developing anti-satellite missiles and lasers designed to damage or destroy US satellites. According to Michael Raska, a research fellow at the Singapore-based Institute of Defence and Strategic Studies, China is working on the Shenguang (“Divine Light”) laser project for inertial confinement fusion, which aims to use high-powered lasers to produce a sustained nuclear fusion reaction.
Raska said the program — officially designated as an alternative energy project — could have two military applications: improving China’s next-generation thermonuclear weapons and advancing its directed-energy laser weapon programs.

“根据平均法则,在中间的某个地方可以发现真理,这是毫无疑问的,”AMI国际咨询服务的副总裁鲍勃纽金特说。他往往倾向于SLQ-59只是正常的电子战改进计划(SEWIP)中的一部分,“但是可能会有一些特定的威胁,那么就需要设备来填补这一缝隙。”

中国也已开发出旨在破坏或摧毁美国卫星的反卫星导弹和激光。据新加坡国防和战略研究学院研究员迈克尔拉什卡(表示),中国正在开展“圣光”(神圣之光)激光项目,其目的是使用大功率激光器持续产生惯性约束聚变的核聚变反应。

拉什卡说,这项工程在官方被划为替代能源计划,但它有两种军事用途:改善中国的下一代核武器和推进它的定向能激光武器计划。

China’s A2/AD strategy is intended to force the US military to operate farther from the mainland and make it difficult for US strike missions to knock out China’s military eyes and ears.

China’s massive complex of advanced underground facilities is part of the effort to impede the US from destroying command-and-control nodes during a war. Any attempt by the US to use its stealthy F-22 fighter jets and B-2 bombers to cripple underground facilities would face China’s ongoing attempts to defeat stealth technology.

This includes stealth technology acquired by espionage, such as B-2 secrets provided by former Northrop Grumman engineer Noshir Gowadia and others. Gowadia, whom the US convicted in 2010, provided China with the lock-on range for infrared-guided missiles against the B-2 and information that allowed China to develop a low-signature cruise missile exhaust system.

中国的反介入/区域封锁战略的目的是迫使美军远离大陆去运作,让美国的打击任务难以击溃中国军方的眼睛和耳朵。

中国大量复杂先进的地下设施,是妨碍美国在战争期间破坏指挥和控制节点努力的一部分。美国想利用其隐形(性能)的F-22战斗机和B-2轰炸机,来瘫痪(中国)地下设施的任何企图,都将面临中国正在尝试的反隐身技术(的反击)。

这包括利用间谍活动已取得了隐形技术,如由前诺斯罗普格鲁曼公司工程师诺谢尔戈瓦迪亚提供的B-2机密(资料)还有其他的(事件)。戈瓦迪亚由于为中国提供对付B-2(轰炸机)的红外制导导弹锁定范围和让中国能开发出低信号特征巡航导弹排气系统的相关信息,在2010年被美国定罪。

There also are other indications China is developing radar capabilities that will allow it to identify and shoot down stealth aircraft. This includes the development of meter-wave, passive over-the-horizon radar and infrared countermeasures in cooperation with the Ukraine-based Lviv Radiotechnical Science and Research Institute and the Iskra Scientific and Production Complex, said Vasiliy Kashin, a China military specialist at the Moscow-based Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies.

China also has acquired Kolchuga passive sensor electronic warfare systems and mobile 3-D 36D6-M1 airspace surveillance radars from Ukraine, he said.
China’s new YLC-20 two-station passive surveillance radar is possibly a copy of the Czech VERA-E system. There also are indications China plans to procure the 400-kilometer-range Russian S-400 surface-to-air missile system, which for the first time would give China complete air defense coverage of Taiwan. China uses the indigenously developed HQ-9 and Russian-built S-300 land-based mobile systems.

“也有其他一些迹象表明,中国正在发展让雷达具备识别并击落隐形飞机的能力。这包括与乌克兰利沃夫无线电技术科学研究院和火星派科学生产综合院,合作开发的米波无源超视距雷达和红外对抗(装置)。”位于莫斯科战略和技术分析中心的中国军事专家,瓦西里卡辛说。

他说:“中国还从乌克兰取得了铠甲无源传感电子战系统和机动三坐标36D6-M1对空监视雷达。”

中国新的YLC-20双站无源监视雷达可能仿制于捷克的VERA-E系统。也有一些迹象表明,中国计划购买攻击范围400公里的俄制S-400地对空导弹系统,这让中国首次完全具备对台湾(地区)的防空覆盖。中国正在使用的是自制HQ-9和俄制S-300路基移动(防空)系统。

Even if US bombing missions can escape China’s improving surface-to-air missile capabilities, the US still must locate and destroy the underground facilities that reportedly make up hundreds of miles of tunnels throughout China.

China’s underground facility program is “by its very nature inherently strategic and secretive,” said Ian Easton, a researcher at the Project 2049 Institute. To make those facilities survivable, China has invested a “tremendous level” of resources to “adapt an ancient defense method to a modern battlefield,” he said.

即使美国的轰炸任务可以摆脱中国已改进的地-空导弹能力,美国仍然必须找到并摧毁地下设施,据说在中国各地有数百英里这样的隧道。(译者:100英里≈161公里)

2049项目研究所研究员莱恩伊斯顿说:“中国的地下设施计划其本质固有着战略和隐秘。这是让这些设施能有生存能力,中国已经投入了巨大的资源让这种古老的防御方法来适应现代战场。”

延伸阅读:

1)2049项目研究所:

总部地处华盛顿一座普通办公楼二楼,研究所总裁是美国前副助理国务卿薛瑞福。2049取自那时候是新中国建国100周年之意,著有一篇比较轰动的《中国核弹头存储和运输系统》的研究文章。

2)铠甲无源传感雷达系统:

由乌克兰国营托帕兹公司研制,于1987年投入批量生产,可以发现、跟踪并确定来自地面、水面和空中目标。该雷达是一种被动无线电侦察自动系统,可以侦察纵深600公里宽150公里范围内的情况,能够发现800公里以内的空中目标,是目前世界上同类系统中捕捉目标最远的装置。如果由一辆指挥车同时控制三部“铠甲”雷达,利用三角测量法,整套系统的探测距离将可延伸至1000公里。“铠甲”不但可发现利用“隐形”技术制造的飞机(如美国的F-117A和B-2 ),且还可确定目标的准确位置。“铠甲”本身并不发出电波,而是被动接收来自目标的无线电辐射

以下为网友跟帖:

译者:ngageboy
来源:三泰虎论坛 http://bbs.santaihu.com/thread-7388-1-1.html

S K Mittal(孟加拉)
God damn china.

上帝诅咒中国(表情:喝咖啡看报纸)

Himanshu Pandey(印度)
I have no problem if china walled and manned each inch of its sea border.. just free the tibbat and east turkemenistan and get away from our borders.

如果中国在每英寸的海边都筑起墙并派人驻守,我想就没问题了。。。只是(请)给XZ和“东土库曼斯坦”(译者:貌似指我大XJ)自由并离我们的边境远点。

S K Mittal(孟加拉)回复Himanshu Pandey(印度)
u r forgetting south china sea.

你忘了中国南海。

Himanshu Pandey(印度)回复S K Mittal(孟加拉)
nope I am not we will do whatever necessary there after china leave these 2 nations on our border free.

没,中国让那两个我们边界旁的“国家”自由后,我们将尽一切必要(去帮助他们)

(译者:恶心的言论,吐吐吐!)

S K Mittal(孟加拉)回复Himanshu Pandey(印度)
but ur navy will take another 10 yr to become capable of doing that

但是你们的海军还需要10年才能够做到那样。

Himanshu Pandey(印度)回复S K Mittal(孟加拉)
try not using SMS lingo here.. and yes it will take that much time and thats why we are not talking war with china as we do with pakistan

尽量不要在这里用短信术语(译者:指用U代替YOU等)。。。是的,肯定要花这么长的时间,这就是为什么我们不和巴基斯坦一样与中国谈论战争。

S K Mittal(孟加拉)回复Himanshu Pandey(印度)
thats why i’m saying you are forgetting SC sea. because you can’t sweep of china of your own. if you want to normalise your relation wid china then china must have to leave south china sea also.

这就是为什么我说你忘了中国南海。因为你们不能靠自己(的力量)席卷中国。如果你想与中国的关系正常化,中国也必须撤出中国南海(才行)。

Himanshu Pandey(印度)回复S K Mittal(孟加拉)
it can’t leave it as it is next door it china but yes it should stop claiming whole of it… 2nd thing I don’t want a normal relation with china.. all I want is the historical buffer between India and china an see people of these 2 nations free from chinise yoke.

another thing which I want is getting rid of chinise products from India… for every nation on earth china is a enemy because it doesn’t know how to live in its own border and I don’t want a normal relation with any nations which creates colony.

它不会离开的,因为它是中国的隔壁。但是它应该停止声称南海整个(都是中国)。。。第二,我不希望和中国关系正常化。。所以我想要的是印度和中国之间的历史缓冲区,看到这两个“国家”的人民从中国佬的枷锁中获得自由。

另一件事是我想印度摆脱中国佬的产品,对地球上的任何国家来说,中国是敌人,因为它不懂如何在我们边界旁生存,我不想与任何国家建立起殖民地般的正常关系。

(译者:赤裸裸的自卑+羡慕嫉妒恨有木有?)

S K Mittal(孟加拉)回复Himanshu Pandey(印度)

I also hate made in china thing.
secondly if china leave these 2 colony then wat is the problem in keeping normal relation with them

我也很讨厌中国货
其次,如果中国离开那两个“殖民地”,有个问题就是他们如何能保持正常关系。

Himanshu Pandey(印度)回复S K Mittal(孟加拉)

离不开他们支持的纳萨尔派和巴基斯坦

S K Mittal(孟加拉)回复Himanshu Pandey(印度)
Once china leave tibbet and turkmenistan. They will niether able to support naxaliets nor pak

只要中国离开XZ和土库曼斯坦。他们就不能够支持纳萨尔派和巴基斯坦了

Layman(印度)
Chinese have the capability to defend themselves well.

中国有能力很好得保卫自己

S K Mittal(孟加拉)
I want to see china vs US

我希望看到中国杠上美国

Layman(印度)回复S K Mittal(孟加拉)
That is never gonna happen. China has inherited US debt in large folds, and they want their debt to be washed out. And their economy is going to crushed it that happens and as well as whole world economies will suffer.

那是永远不会发生的。中国握有大把的美国债券,他们不希望自己债务被赖掉。如果真的发生那样的事,他们的经济会崩溃的,而且整个世界经济也将遭殃。

S K Mittal(孟加拉)回复Layman(印度)
there is no tax in taking dreams
as only US can defeat china and that is only in imagination.
as war is not possible in between these 2 gaints in reality

做梦都想无税啊
因为只有美国可以击败中国,而且只存在现象之中。
因为现实中战争不可能在俩巨头之间爆发。

Layman(印度)回复S K Mittal(孟加拉)
I couldnt understand ? Sorry… You mean to say that US can Trash only in dreams

我不懂意思?抱歉。。你说的意思是美国在梦里才可能变成废物?

S K Mittal(孟加拉)回复Layman(印度)
no problem
i mean only us can defeat china even in my imaginations
may be i have not rightly stated it

没错
我的意思是,我的意思是只有美国能击败中国,即使是在我想象之中。
可能是我没能正确表达吧。

Layman(印度)回复S K Mittal(孟加拉)
First issue would be is Chinese ready to engage US in a active confrontations ? I think not.

首要问题是中国会准备从事与美国的积极对抗么?我认为不会

S K Mittal(孟加拉)回复Layman(印度)
that is why i’m saying there war can only happen in my imaginations
as a war between these gaints will be harmful for their intrests which are associated wid each other

那就是为什么我说,只能发生在我想象当中。
因为那两个巨头之间的战争对他们之间的利益有害,他们之间是有紧密相关的

Layman(印度)回复S K Mittal(孟加拉)
Thx for explanations, I took your quote in different prospective…

多谢你的说明,我明白你的论述是站在不同的角度(来看的)。。。

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