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印度Rediff:中国占领着克什米尔的部分地区

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三泰虎4月2日译文,印度Rediff报道,原题:中国占领着克什米尔的部分地区。印度人看中国军队出现在印巴争议地区。据报道,一位克什米尔领导人披露,中国占领着克什米尔、吉尔吉特伯尔蒂斯坦以及阿克赛钦的部分地区,尽管其不属于这些领土主权争议的一方。在一次接受ANI通讯社的采访中,外交委员会负责人和克什米尔国家党高级领导人Choudhry警告,“尽管中国占领着该地区,但中国并非是争议一方。巴基斯坦和支持巴基斯坦的克什米尔人试图让北京成为争议一方。此举将完全是灾难性的。”

译文来源:三泰虎
原文标题:China occupying parts of Kashmir
原文链接:http://www.rediff.com/news/report/china-occupying-parts-of-kashmir/20130328.htm

克什米尔地方领导人称中国占领着克什米尔的部分地区

印控克什米尔居民走上索桥前往巴控区

A Kashmiri leader has revealed that China is in occupation of parts of Kashmir, Gilgit-Baltistan and Aksai Chin, despite not being a party to any of these land ownership disputes.

In an interview given to ANI, Dr Shabir Choudhry, Head of Diplomatic Committee and senior leader of the Kashmir National Party, said, “China also occupies part of Jammu and Kashmir state, some part of the Aksai Chin area and some areas of Gilgit Baltistan.”
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一位克什米尔领导人披露,中国占领着克什米尔、吉尔吉特伯尔蒂斯坦以及阿克赛钦的部分地区,尽管其不属于这些领土主权争议的一方。

在一次接受ANI通讯社的采访中,外交委员会负责人和克什米尔国家党高级领导人Choudhry表示,“中国也占领着查馍克什米尔邦的部分地区,阿克赛钦和吉尔吉特伯尔蒂斯坦的某些地区。”

“Despite that occupation, China is not a party in any dispute. Pakistan and pro-Pakistani Kashmiris are trying to make Beijing a party in these disputes. This will be totally disastrous,” he warned.

Choudhry further stated that having more or less unrestricted access to these areas, Beijing has undertaken a major exploration drive to unearth precious minerals and stones, which it hopes to use for developing its missile technology.

他警告:“尽管中国占领着该地区,但中国并非是争议一方。巴基斯坦和支持巴基斯坦的克什米尔人试图让北京成为争议一方。此举将完全是灾难性的。”

Choudhry进一步阐述称,由于进入这些地区几乎不受限制,北京已经开始进行重大开发,以挖掘宝贵的矿产和宝石,希望能用于发展导弹技术。

“Various areas in Gilgit Baltistan have been given to China for exploration. All minerals, precious stones and (other) material that can be used for missile technology, China is taking all those away. Pakistan has given these areas to China very generously. They (Pakistanis) have received an amount for that. For each area that they have given to China, they have received money for that,” Choudhry claimed.

Claiming that China and Pakistan’s elite class were the only ones benefitting from this exercise, the Kashmiri leader said,” Local people are protesting that these resources belong to us, we should benefit only, our generations should benefit.”

“吉尔吉特伯尔蒂斯坦各地区已经被交给中国用于开发。宝石以及其他矿物质可被用于导弹技术的研发,中国把这些统统拿走了。巴基斯坦非常大方地把这些地区给了中国。他们(巴基斯坦人)为此收到了一笔资金。交给中国每一块领土,他们就会收到一笔钱,”Choudhry声称。

这位克什米尔领导人还声称只有中国和巴基斯坦的精英阶层从中受益,他说:“当地人抗议称这些资源属于我们,该受益的是我们,是我们下一代。”

“I visited Gilgit Baltistan. I saw that area and I was surprised to see Chinese signboards over there. What does that imply. People there don’t know Chinese. I don’t know Chinese. It means that Chinese presence is there. Signboards are for them, not for me or not for Pakistanis. So there is a large presence of Chinese in Gilgit Baltistan,” he said.

“The road construction and dam construction which is going on over there, there is a large presence of the Chinese army,” he added.

“我参观过吉尔吉特伯尔蒂斯坦,看过那个地方,我惊讶地看到中文标示牌。这意味着什么?那里的人不懂中文,我也不懂中文。这意味着中国人的存在,标示牌是为他们准备的,不是为我,也不是为巴基斯坦人准备的。所以吉尔吉特伯尔蒂斯坦有大量的中国人存在,”他说。

他补充说道:“那里在进行着公路建设和大坝修建,中国军队在那里建立了大规模存在。”

以下是印度网民的评论:

译文来源:三泰虎 http://bbs.santaihu.com/thread-4578-1-1.html

fool kashmiri
by balu

pak sold kashmir to china.
Now china will screwd them like USA screwd pak for 40 years.

巴基斯坦把克什米尔卖给了中国。

中国将会像美国过去40年那样操巴基斯坦。

kashmiri leadership
by p

& people Is doing what? they have been digging their own graves.

克什米尔的领导层和人民在干什么?他们是在自掘坟墓。

China
by Ravi

China slowly swallowing a little of Kashmir, gowadhar port(pakistan)and tomorrow will swallow whole pakistan.

中国缓慢地吞并克什米尔、瓜达尔港,明天会吞并整个巴基斯坦。

Re: China
by mohammed shahjahan
hmmm beta whole india….hehe…jalna mat ok

最好吞并整个印度….呵呵…..

Re: Re: China
by ctc
US fuck_d pak now china turn,boot lickers

以前是美国操巴基斯坦,现在轮到中国了,马屁精。

Great what is happening
by Mihir m

I use to think if Kashmir gets off hand of INDIA Military then it will be ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF KASHMIR ( IRK) ..but way China is doing it will be KASHMIR SOCIALIST REPUBLIC (KSR) a communist nation wow.fantastic. End of religion in valley.

我常想,要是克什米尔摆脱印度军队之手,那将会是克什米尔ysl共和国(IRK)….如果照中国这么来,那将会是克什米尔社会主义共和国(KSR),即一个共产主义国家,wow,不可思议,宗教将会终结。

‘China occupying parts of Kashmir’
by Xian Li Gen

How can anyone say “China is in occupation of parts of Kashmir, Gilgit-Baltistan and Aksai Chin, despite not being a party to any of these land ownership disputes.” ?
Control of the Shaksgam Valley was ceded to China by Pakistan in 1963, and India and China fought a war over Aksai Chin in 1962, and signed agreements for a Line Of Control in 1996. Of course China is a party to these disputes. Sounds like someone is trying to start another war. Good luck with that.

怎么会有人说“中国占领着克什米尔、吉尔吉特伯尔蒂斯坦以及阿克赛钦的部分地区,尽管其不属于这些领土主权争议的一方。”

巴基斯坦在1963年把沙克斯甘谷地割让给中国,印度和中国在1962年为了阿克赛钦打了一场战争,并在1996年就实际控制线签署了协议。中国当然是这些争议的一方。听起来好像有人又想开战了,好运吧。

Re: ‘China occupying parts of Kashmir’
by communalmedia
such bull stories can only be given by chinese. This time war will not be like 1962. China does not have the guts to start anymore war.

只有中国人才给得出如此荒唐的故事。这次可不会像1962年中印战争那样了。中国没有勇气再次开战。

It is checkmate for india!!!
by Dude

india is not country and success of it seriously doubted since it does not have good relations with anybody in its neighbourhood.

China is present in Tibet, Maldives, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Kashmir everywhere so how india will be able to claim that it mightly and powerful country.

It is checkmate for india.Find different solution.

印度作为成功的国家这一说法严重存疑,其与周边国家的关系都不好。

中国在xz、马尔代夫、斯里兰卡、尼泊尔、克什米尔等到处建立存在,印度又怎么能自称强大的国家。

这对印度来说是死局,找其他解决办法吧。

Re: It is checkmate for india!!!
by Sudhakaran Nair
We have not time to look into all these things. We have to fight in between first and we have to win- means we have to fight as religion, and caste, and statewise and rich and poor man. and language bases. After winning all these things, we will look into China and by the time full India would have been with some foreigh country.

我们没有时间调查这些事情。我们必须首先内斗,必须获胜,这意味着我们必须根据宗教、种姓、贫富以及语言来斗争。全部获胜后,我们才能调查中国的活动,印度到时候可能是某国的地盘了。

we prefer to close one eye and look otherside
by Tamil Lover

China occupies kashmir and parts of arunachal –
Gov- False news. no need to worry.

China builds dams , diverts water.
gov- We expressed our concern to chinese side.reponsibility over.

CHina bo mbed our army bunker destroyed our positions and have posted their flags.
gov- We have informed our counterparts in chinese gov and waiting for their reply.Hopefully there is no misadventure,

China builds airports, roads in tib%t and near arunachal border.
India gov- We have expressed our concern.

China builds ports, airports, pipelines, oilwells in Indian ocean and south asian countries.
India gov- We want to take china0india relations to next level

中国占领着克什米尔和阿鲁纳恰尔邦的部分地区,印度政府发布假新闻,称不必担心。

中国修建大坝,分流河水,印度政府向中方表达关注。

中国摧毁了我们的地堡,摧毁了我们的阵地,还举起了他们的国旗,印度政府称已经通知中方,正等待回复,

中国在xz和阿邦边界附近修建机场和公路,印度政府称已经表达关注。

中国在印度洋和南亚国家修建港口、机场、管道、油井,印度政府称我们已经把中印关系带到一个新的水平。

Re: we prefer to close one eye and look otherside
by sam raj
Which shows India’s impotent and lack of diplomatic political power. Our impotent appeasement foreign policy has no use which is evident from handling Srilanka over killing of Indian/Tamil fishermen

此举表明印度无能,缺乏外交政治实力。我们无能的政府奉行绥靖的外交政策,没有起到任何作用,从与斯里兰卡就印度/泰米尔渔民被杀一事的处理可以明显看出。

shows how sincere are kashmiri jihadi is
by Saba Pathy

shows how sincere are kashmiri jihadi is

Bcz India is soft pedaling, they simply say we want independence. Can they take the land of Kashmiri’s from China? Can they ask even?

这表明克什米尔圣战分子多实在。

印度软趴趴,所以他们想独立。他们敢从中国之手拿走克什米尔的领土吗?他们敢向中国开口吗?

..
by Om Shanti

So Pakistanis_are selling land to survive…

也就是说巴基斯坦人为了生存而卖地……

Re: ..
by sam raj
A small correction, Pakistan is selling POK, which is an Indian land

Tomorrow, they might sell J&K also, as China never accepted J&K as integral part of India

小小的纠正,巴基斯坦是在卖巴控克什米尔,那是印度的领土。

他们明天可能也会卖查馍克什米尔,中国从来没有承认查馍克什米尔是印度领土不可或缺的一部分。

Let Kashmiri Muslims
by nandha C

protest against this chinese injustice and attack the land grabbing and give talak to paki terririssts.

怂恿克什米尔msl抗议中国人的不公,袭击被占的领土,给巴基斯坦恐怖分子施以援助。

Until
by Bijoy Bhaskar

China reaches Delhi one day, our Govt. will be in denying mode

中国总有一天会到达德里,我们的政府会做出否认。

Re: Until
by Saba Pathy
On the flip side, may be Chinese rule is better

另一方面,也许中国人来统治会更好。

Re: Re: Until
by Suhrud Patel
ofcourse better than italian rule

当然比意大利人统治更好。

China
by arungopal agarwal

For China, present border has no meaning, for HIM only old silk route, China never touches anyone but does not tolerate in ITS internal affair by anyone including US. India is to learn, we cannot even abuse PAK, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka or anyone.

To be stronger is the key to reply to all.

对中国来说,目前的边界毫无意义,古老的丝绸之路才有,中国从来不去碰别人,但决不会容忍包括美国在内的任何国家干涉其内部事务,印度该学着点,我们连巴基斯坦、孟加拉国、尼泊尔、斯里兰卡等国家都不敢伤害。

让自己强大些才是回复一切问题的关键。

Re: China
by Hari Narasimhan
My friend, China never touches anyone? What about the illegal occupation of Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia? China may say they were a part of Greater China(all debatable stuff).They have territorial disputes with many countries around them.

Could you please enlighten me?

我的朋友,中国从来不碰别人?那被非法占领的xz、xj和内蒙呢?中国或许会说这些地方是大中华区的一部分(统统都存争议)。中国还与许多周边国家存在领土纠纷。

你能给我开导一下吗?

Re: Re: China
by arungopal agarwal
You are right, but if you study China, China has a history of 6000 years kept intact, whereas hour history is only 3000 years old(as per records) China claims all its territory as per old silk route as per India and China relations are concerned, PAK is new creation, earlier India only. Similarly Tibet was never a part of India, yes culturally-not politically.

你说得对,但如果你研究中国,其实中国有6000年完整的历史,而我们的历史只有3000年。就印中关系而言,中国依据古丝绸之路来主张领土。巴基斯坦是后来才有的,以前只有印度。类似地,xz从来不是印度的一部分,文化上是,但政治上不是。

Re: Re: Re: China
by Hari Narasimhan
Yes China may have a 6000 year history, but if you are considering China to be Han then they cannot claim any territory outside the Han ambit.At any point in history a king belonging to one ehnic group may have ruled over other groups also but taht does not give China any justification to occupy these territories.If that is the case Mongolia can claim China.

是的,中国或许有6000年的历史,但如果你把中国视为汉人的,那么汉人区以外的领土就不能说是中国的。历史上,一个属于某个族群的国王可能统治了其他族群,但中国并不能以此为依据来占领其他领土。真要这样的话,那么蒙古可以主张拥有中国。

Nothing to worry
by Ghaghraa

Yuva Hriday Samrat Rahulji will look into this matter once he becomes Prime Minster. This is in his agenda… he will personally discussion this with Chinese PM and all the land pakistan has given to China will be given back to indIA

拉胡尔当上总理后会调查此事,这是他的计划……他会亲自与中国总理讨论,巴基斯坦给中国的所有领土都将会归还印度。

Re: Nothing to worry
by Jalim Jallad
U r absolutely right; he is already practising these things….just the other day I saw himstanding at the Chinese embassy with a bowl in his hands…he is certainly taking his future job seriously hoping to, as you mentioned, get all territories back from China

完全正确,他已经在做这些事情了…..就在几天前,我看到他拿着讨饭碗站在中国大使馆门口……正如你所提到的,他肯定在严肃地看待未来的工作,期望从中国要回所有领土。

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  1. 三锅真闲得蛋疼,领土历史上重来都是变化的,与其吊丝们操这份闲心,还不如多赚点钱,让自己生活得更好,特权阶层从来都是自顾腰包的

  2. :mrgreen: 说了,找阿三去解释,必须把自己的智商降低!而且这哥们把自己的世界观价值观强加给三哥,怎么可能出现他所希望的情况?淡定啊。。

  3. 阿三们动不动就是自己有多少年历史
    问题是他们自己的历史都要从中国一个和尚的游记里面去考古
    我估计1000年前印度发生的事情阿三们都搞不清楚,还动不动就扯几千年

  4. 如果你把中国视为汉人的,那么汉人区以外的领土就不能说是中国的。
    ————
    那么印度这个国家甚至不应该存在,印度有那么多的民族。

  5. 几乎每个阿三都确定1962年的悲剧不会重演,事实上,如果有下次……那估计……没有印度了……

  6. Re: Re: Re: China
    by Hari Narasimhan
    Yes China may have a 6000 year history, but if you are considering China to be Han then they cannot claim any territory outside the Han ambit.At any point in history a king belonging to one ehnic group may have ruled over other groups also but taht does not give China any justification to occupy these territories.If that is the case Mongolia can claim China.

    是的,中国或许有6000年的历史,但如果你把中国视为汉人的,那么汉人区以外的领土就不能说是中国的。历史上,一个属于某个族群的国王可能统治了其他族群,但中国并不能以此为依据来占领其他领土。真要这样的话,那么蒙古可以主张拥有中国。

    ————————————————————

    如果按照这位三哥逻辑,印度根本就没有存在的理由了,分裂成几千个部落小国最合理。另外中国的蒙古族人数多于外蒙古人,中国的蒙古族和汉族人一样同样拥有中国,因为他们就是中国人,这一点也不矛盾

      • 中华民族只是汉族自己这么称呼罢了.全世界承认这个民族的人少之又少.包括国内很多少数民族都不买账.你仔细想一想啊.汉族又称华夏.为什么汉族是在中间.而叫中华啊?为什么汉族是主体.我们就像买一送一的附送品啊.你考虑过少民的感受吗?苏联也有个苏联民族.中华民族就是学的那一套.现在这个民族呢?一场笑话罢了.中华民族跟苏联民族一样.是政治的产物.而并不是真的有这个民族.

        • 我是满族人, 我认识的族人都承认中华民族这个称呼, 为什么要管全世界怎么看呢,全世界抛弃你了, 难道你要去死吗?
          汉族人是主体,挺好啊,我老婆就是汉族人,又漂亮,又能吃苦, 没感觉到我是什么附送品啊,我有个回族的兄弟,他老婆为了他不吃猪肉了,后来这小子不忍心,就也放开一些。

          你考虑过少民的感受吗?
          答:我感觉活得特开心,我们家族人也都活得特开心,不过他们没时间考虑你说这个问题,他们忙着去赚钱,没时间考虑政治,因为没有任何政治障碍和歧视,哪怕一点点。

          不过非要说不开心的呢,也有,我在北京就被人歧视为外地人,在上海也被人歧视为外地人,在广州好一点,但听不懂粤语。

          • 有时候,论坛里的话不要太当真,说白了,有相当一部分人是闲的蛋疼只图嘴巴痛快瞎YY的装B者,还有少部分是不动脑筋跟着瞎起哄的毛孩子,另有一小撮是现实生活不得意别有用心唯恐天下不乱的搅屎棍;最后才是真正用自己的大脑独立思考却常常懒得回帖的家伙。
            完了。哈哈,我知道此言一出必遭砖头。。。没关系,反正明天我要去婺源看快谢完的油菜花了,下个星期见!

      • 还有啊,蒙古国可以主张拥有中国啊,只要他们回归中华大家庭,重新做中国人,他们就可以拥有中国,中华大家庭欢迎迷途的孩子回家 ,只要你加入中国,就能拥有中国。不过这可不包括三哥,大中华可从来不想要一个遍地粪便和强奸犯十几亿两腿畜生的国家,对任何土地都没一点性趣 ,怕怕 😆 请三哥把心放在肚子里,别老认为中国要侵略你,真的不想要你啊

        • 强烈支持你的观点。
          以前常来这儿看帖,但现在觉得看多了三哥的言行举止,会不会学坏、会不会不思上进… 🙂

          • 千岁,我也是满族,中国毫无疑问是汉族为主体,但我们毫无疑问也有所有权!
            我是大连的,同意你的说法

          • 事实上,我觉得现今中国少民更“高贵”。。虽然作为融合最彻底的户口本少民,我没享受过任何政策(也没任何歧视)。。。但看看维族在内地的猖狂我就切身感受到了“两少一宽”的威力。。。。

          • 因为作为少民,所以更关注少民论坛,确实好多少民不认同中华民族的说法,如果对民族问题研究过的少民,不认同的更多,我也不认同。
            但不认同中华民族的提法,并不妨碍我们认同中国人的身份。

    • 克什米尔确实有一小块地区在中国实际控制下,暂且叫中控克什米尔吧,但和三哥没什么关系,不属于争议地区,三哥是咸吃萝卜淡操心

  7. 蒙古主张拥有中国,我到时欢迎,这正好给了我们口实,证明我们历史上是一个国家,那就算内战,然后我就清算加愉快的把那群2逼放羊娃给灭亡了。蒙古想要编历史,好啊,你先把你跟老毛子的历史编进你蒙古史,我再跟你谈,好吧? 那伊尔汗国和伊朗,伊拉克的关系要怎么算?我都不知道,怎么算?伊斯兰教给蒙古人打工,这个有意思,我想看看穆圣的阿訇们如何因应这个问题。

    至于三哥这张臭嘴巴,也真的够是嘴炮了。三哥别刷存在感,别发酵你的民族主义了,尤其是别把民族主义的枪口对准中国了,好吧? 我都你妈厌烦了。

  8. 老虎,有没有关于金砖国家合作问题的文章?
    关于领土的贴,我们猜都能猜到阿三会说什么。
    我们不必要总是听他们发牢骚

  9. 这个故事是这样的:有一天报道中的主人公被门夹了脑袋,然后灵光一现——我们要去新德里要回赔偿。可怎么做呢?他冥思苦想不得其解,突然脑袋又被门夹到了,随即主意就出现在脑海中了——我们要去新德里告诉印度人,中国人来了……
    恐慌的印度人不知所措,然后,新德里市场上的门脱销了。

  10. 如果你把中国视为汉人的,那么汉人区以外的领土就不能说是中国的
    ==========
    同理,印度几百个民族是不是应该拆成几百个国家??!!
    这脑残阿三,也不想想自己是什么玩意儿,英国佬整合一起来一群猴子 👿

  11. 中控克什米尔对于保护新藏公路意义重大,战略意义大于藏南(藏南已被阿三移民,很难动了)而中控克什米尔退可保新藏公路畅通,进可威胁新德里,三哥如鲠在喉而无可奈何

    • 领土问题对任何一方的国家领导人都是很烫手的。
      移民问题我认为根本不是问题,以前二战时候日本也对台湾殖民,对东北殖民,对朝鲜半岛殖民。你看看后来都怎么样了?

  12. 在中国,少民算是全世界最幸福的存在了,各种倾斜、各种加分、各种优待,只要不傻、不懒、不赌、不抽,基本上都过得不错