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稀土案中国败诉

2014-03-28 10:07 36个评论 字号:

三泰虎3月28日译文,据美国《雅虎》报道,就稀土和稀有金属出口的限制,中国在世贸组织输了一起纠纷,欧美获得了一个胜利,后者将其视为北京不公平的贸易做法。欧盟贸易专员德古特表示,“世贸组织今天有关稀土的裁决表明,任何国家都不能与WTO其他成员为代价,从全球市场囤积原材料。”中国生产的稀土占了世界稀土产量的90%。稀土是国防工业组件以及从iPhone到磁碟机再到风力涡轮机等现代技术的关键元素。2010年,中国对稀土出口实施严格的配额,理由是遏制污染和保护资源。

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
外文标题:China loses trade dispute over rare earth exports
外文地址:http://news.yahoo.com/china-loses-trade-dispute-over-rare-earth-exports-131336789–sector.html

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GENEVA/WASHINGTON (Reuters) – China has lost a dispute at the World Trade Organization over limits on rare earth and metals exports, handing Europe and the United States a victory over what they see as Beijing’s unfair trade practices.

“Today’s ruling by the WTO on rare earth shows that no one country can hoard its raw materials from the global market place at the expense of its other WTO partners,” said EU Trade Commissioner Karel De Gucht.

就稀土和稀有金属出口的限制,中国在世贸组织输了一起纠纷,欧美获得了一个胜利,后者将其视为北京不公平的贸易做法。

欧盟贸易专员德古特表示,“世贸组织今天有关稀土的裁决表明,任何国家都不能与WTO其他成员为代价,从全球市场囤积原材料。”

China produces more than 90 percent of the world’s rare earths, key elements in defense industry components and modern technology from iPhones and disk drives to wind turbines.

China imposed strict rare earth export quotas in 2010, saying it was trying to curtail pollution and preserve resources.

中国生产的稀土占了世界稀土产量的90%。稀土是国防工业组件以及从iPhone到磁碟机再到风力涡轮机等现代技术的关键元素。

2010年,中国对稀土出口实施严格的配额,理由是遏制污染和保护资源。

以下是美国《雅虎》读者的评论:

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com/china-loses-trade-dispute-over-rare-earth-exports.html

Frank

A while ago it was 97% of World production. Relying on any one nation for 97% of anything valuable is stupid. relying on China is insane.

前一阵子,中国占了世界产量的97%。贵重资源的97%依赖某个国家是愚蠢之举。依赖中国是不理智的。

RustyDog

They are not trustworthy as their record shows, time for the world to make them pay by charging huge amounts for oil and gas and other commodities they need.

从以往记录来看,他们不守信用。世界各国应该联合起来把石油天然气高价卖给他们。

Bible Reader

And my neighbor should sell me his new Mercedes for $10,000. The neighborhood should just vote that in and force him to sell

我邻居应该把他的新奔驰以1万美元卖给我。街坊居民应该一起投票做决定,然后迫使那位邻居把车卖给我。

Walter S.

Joining WTO would allow you to do that actually…dumbaxx

加入WTO后就会成为可能。

eco123eco

This is just like OPEC, except this time it’s China. When the Arabs disagreed with the price of a Barrel of Oil they started walking out of OPEC. Suddenly, every Arab Nation was facing the threat of War with America and Israel. Look at the entire Middle East, and what has happened there over the Price of a Barrel of Oil. The Arabs had a right to sell their Oil for whatever price they wanted so long as someone was willing to pay. Just like China now has a right to sell Rare Earths at any price they want if someone will pay it.

与欧佩克面临的情况类似,只不过这次换成了中国。当阿拉伯人对每桶石油的价格不满意时,他们就开始走出欧佩克。突然,每个阿拉伯国家都面临与美国和以色列开战的危险。看看整个中东围绕石油价格都发生了些什么。只要有人愿意买,阿拉伯人有权利以任何价格出售石油。类似地,只要有人买,中国现在有权利以任何价格出售稀土。

Peace

let china keep its valuable resources. We just stop buying its products.

就让中国留着贵重资源吧,我们拒绝购买他们的产品不就得了。

Commenter

I call BS on the WTO decision. Sorry. I think a country can do what ever it wants with its own resources.

WTO的这个决定就是扯淡。抱歉,我认为一个国家有权利任意处置自己的资源。

Walter

So china should leave WTO. Why join the the first place, moron?

中国就该离开WTO,为什么一开始要加入?

Hmmm

China imposed strict rare earth export quotas in 2010, saying it was trying to curtail pollution and preserve resources. THAT SOUNDS AS PLAUSIBLE as the Unaffordable ACA!

中国于2010年限制稀土出口,借口是遏制污染和保护资源。

Lang Chauvin

Rare earth and black sand minerals to produce metal parts and magnets imported from China are actually stolen or smuggled by Chinese poachers from Philippine shores. These chinese thugs are engaged in illegal mining activities all over the Philippines.

从中国进口、用于生产金属零件和磁铁的稀土和黑纱矿产,实际上是中国非法开采者从菲律宾口岸走私过去的。菲律宾各地到处是非法采矿的中国暴徒。

John

The native americans filed complaint that the white man over took their land…unfortunately nobody cared..

美国土著投诉白人占了他们的领土,不幸地是无人关心。

Monk

China should withdraw from the WTO (Wild Toads Organization), and reserve the right to refuse to sell any rear earth to Japan for national security purpose.

出于国家安全考虑,中国应该退出WTO,保留拒绝把稀土卖给日本的权利。

JACK L

The U.S. went into Iraq for their oil. Went into Afganistan for their rare earth and metals. Wow is no one out there listening or looking ?

美国为了石油而进入伊拉克,为了稀土进入阿富汗。哇,难道就无人在听,无人在看吗?

sargentpenny

yup, but no one seems to care

似乎无人关心

andrei radu
Now calculate the economic damage done and send the bill to China.
If they refuse to pay place tariffs on all their exports until it gets paid

计算(中国限制稀土出口带来的)经济损失,然后把账单发给中国。如果中国拒绝支付,那就对他们的所有出口商品征收关税。

jerry s

The US has the rare earth mines in California, Nevada, etc. We should be mining our own materials first but the federal government is always getting in the way.

美国在加利福尼亚和内华达州也有稀土矿,我们应该先开采自己的矿产,但是联邦政府总是加以阻挠。

andrei radu

But you and many like you refuse to work in mining.

但很多像你这样的人拒绝在从事采矿工作

Ken the Libertarian

If China ignores the judgement, I’m sure Obuttho will have John Kerry send them a sharply worded note.

如果中国无视判决,我确定奥巴马会让约翰克里给他们发一个措辞严厉的照会。

If China puts in place the same EPA regulations as the USA, there will be little supply and prices will soar.

如果中国效仿美国环保局实施的规定,那么稀土供应就会大大减少,价格就会飙升。

James

The Chinese counter-argument might run like nthese: “Yes, we do produce 90% of the world’s rare earth minerals. But China does not contain 90% of the earth’s rare earth minerals. Rare earth minerals abound throughout the world but most often only in small deposits, making mining for then very expensive.

中国人或许会这样反驳:“是的,我们确实生产了世界上90%的稀土矿,但中国稀土蕴藏量并不占世界的90%。稀土矿遍布全世界,只不过常常是以小储量的形式存在,导致开采成本高昂。”

wow

Set up another world trade organization!

成立另一个世贸组织吧

wow

China has to pollute their environment to produce and sell their rare earth! LOL!

就是会造成环境污染,中国也得开采和出售他们的稀土!哈哈!

donald

Rare earth elements can be produced domestically if the EPA allows it. It’s a dirty process with waste products like thorium that are radioactive and hard to deal with.

如果美国环保局放行,美国可以在国内开采稀土。然而这一过程会产生钍等具有放射线的废物,非常难以处理。

yahooreader

Sell it cheaply, it becomes dumping like in solar panel. Raise the price and it is against WTO rules. Maybe China should sell only to the highest bidders as in any free market,

你说便宜卖吧,稀土就会像太阳能板一样变成倾销;提高价格吧,结果又违反WTO规定。也许中国应该把稀土拿到市场上去,谁出价最高就卖给谁。

eiji

wto legalize western nation to plunder the resources of china

WTO让西方国家掠夺中国资源变成合法化。

Nita
China is going to implode because of $ 2 trillion in bad loans domestically.

中国国内累积了2万亿美元的不良贷款,即将内爆。

Just To Be Fair

WTO is nothing but an organization set up to protect USA and Europe.

WTO只不过是为了保护欧美利益而设立的组织。

tim19620

Set up to protect the free world… not slave labor camps in China.

是为了保护自由世界而设立的,而不是为了保护中国的劳改营。

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  1. 中国马上限制开采就行了我们不限制出口但是我们没这么大的生产力 我们惩治盗采的这还不行吗 尼玛 美国 欧盟大尾巴狼

        • 不是官员贪的问题,虽然现在国人的国家自豪感上升了,但还是发展中国家,更不用十来二十年前,不要忘了我们发展起来还是很短的时间,之前发展前期,当然和很多发展中国家和最不发达国家一样,都是出卖原材料和廉价劳动力来进行必要的资本积累,这当然很可惜,而且现在看有点傻缺,亏本了,但是没有前期投资,现在你我也未必有这个网在这里上。

    • 不是強逼中国出口,用的理由是不公平竞争,国内企业可以获得廉价稀土供应,而欧美日则必须竞争中国的配额。配额制是中国不成熟的无赖之举,既然入了世贸就要遵守世贸的规则,我们总是耍这种小聪明。要限制其实非常容易,首先利用环保等手段封存大部分稀土矿,各大需要稀土的企业入股稀土公司,把稀土抬上天价,需要稀土的行业本身就是股东,等于左手换右手,国家进行了补贴。杀猪兄可参考铁矿石大战日本制铁公司的策略。

  2. 中国那些蠢货加白痴,现在我们的稀土已经早就不是世界第一了,比日本还少。看人家美国,自己的不用留给子孙后代,等世界上其它国家都开采完了,人家以数倍的价格再卖,

  3. Set up to protect the free world… not slave labor camps in China.是为了保护自由世界而设立的,而不是为了保护中国的劳改营。我笑了,”自由“,请问有自己决定处理自己的商品加以买卖,难道就不是自由吗??市场自由买卖是叫”自由“,但前提是买者与卖者能达成共识才交易啊,这才叫自由买卖,你这强迫别人卖,这与强盗有何异义!

  4. 其实稀土资源完全国有化开采,将所有的稀土资源统合到单独的矿业公司垄断经营,这才是王道。。。就和必和必拓那样,不是不卖?而是卖天价。。。国内可以通过资源税,对使用稀土的行业进行一定量的补贴。。。

  5. Set up to protect the free world… not slave labor camps in China.是为了保护自由世界而设立的,而不是为了保护中国的劳改营。______________________________________________________________是自由掠夺者的世界吧。你们这个自由世界那一个不是强盗出身,而且已经形成了强盗逻辑?

  6. Bible ReaderAnd my neighbor should sell me his new Mercedes for $10,000. The neighborhood should just vote that in and force him to sell我邻居应该把他的新奔驰以1万美元卖给我。街坊居民应该一起投票做决定,然后迫使那位邻居把车卖给我。Walter S.Joining WTO would allow you to do that actually…dumbaxx加入WTO后就会成为可能。(我还以为是三锅太反常了,结果看到下面才知道是美国)

  7. 做光伏裁决时,说的是中国倾销,俺觉得说的有道理。为了不重蹈覆辙,中国应该决定不再倾销稀土,原来以每吨¥100W出售的稀土,现在应该改为每吨¥1E,以免冲击白皮猪家的稀土产业。

  8. 欧美:嘿,中国!快把你们稀土资源以土豆价给我们! 中国:我们把贵如黄金的资源这么廉价给你们,污染环境不说,你们还垄断我们急需的高科技产品,这不公平呀! 欧美:这可是你们加入世贸时答应的,稀土资源不加税的! 中国:谁叫你们囤积我们卖给你们的稀土资源呀!以稀土造的高科技产品不卖给我们就算了,还拿来威胁我们安全!我们挖完了,还不得从你们那里高价再买回? 欧美:废话少说,我们就是世贸的规则 (PS:接着,一帮美国狗印度猪在论坛里秀智商)

  9. If China puts in place the same EPA regulations as the USA, there will be little supply and prices will soar.如果中国效仿美国环保局实施的规定,那么稀土供应就会大大减少,价格就会飙升。donaldRare earth elements can be produced domestically if the EPA allows it. It’s a dirty process with waste products like thorium that are radioactive and hard to deal with.如果美国环保局放行,美国可以在国内开采稀土。然而这一过程会产生钍等具有放射线的废物,非常难以处理。++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++这两条真相了,美国:我虽然有稀土资源,但是开采会破坏环境,还会有很多带辐射的废物,前几年中国又禁止我们偷偷的辐射垃圾扔到中国去~好为难呢~所以中国你就必须在中国境内开采出来低价格卖给我们就好了~这样我们得到稀土还比较便宜~辐射垃圾和环境破坏本身就在中国~不是我们输送的哦~这就没问题了~

  10. 西方还是这副强盗嘴脸呢 嘿嘿 是什么让他们觉得他们还可以指挥全世界国家为他们服务? 特别是对第二的国家指手画脚 西方经济危机看来是不够重呢 能有什么办法让他们死得更快么?

  11. 关闭大量的小型矿坑,只保留大型矿坑就可以,产量逐年下降,私自开采者死刑,逐年哄抬价格,WTO的判决是个毛线啊,资源在我,我怎么卖是我的事。

    • 你是不了解稀土开采情况,想当然地观点。实际上这些年ZF早已经关闭了小采场,有采矿权的稀土企业就那么一两家而已,还都是政府控制的。俺曾经在赣南地矿行业干过较长一段时间,经常与各矿管部门打交道,比较了解。如果不是因为咱们把稀土控制的太严,让西方国家感觉难受了,怎么会有这些纠纷出现,甚至闹到打官司?盗采稀土的情况依然存在,但这和贪官无关。赣南的稀土开采很简单,不需要大的投资,也不需要高技术,找个人迹罕至的深山老林,挖几条沟,用草酸溶液等药物浸泡土壤,收集浸出物就可以了,悄无声息就完成了稀土盗采,卫星飞机什么的,根本发现不了盗采的矿点。矿管部门也不是超人,无力时刻监管到每一寸土地,所以盗采的仍然有机可乘。别信稀土资源面临枯竭的说法。夸张点说,赣南粤北这一带,随便找个山头取土化验,都很可能富含稀土资源,你可以想象,已经开采出的能占多大比例?但已经造成的环境污染确实很严重,被污染的土地多少年都寸草不生。