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低种姓家庭部部长,涉嫌种姓证书造假

2014-04-09 00:19 29个评论 字号:

家庭部长苏西尔库马辛德五年前拿到的种姓证书被孟买高等法院暂停使用,这对他来说是个重大挫折。该法院说,种姓审查委员会没有递来附有理由说明的指令,而针对受惠种姓、受惠 部落、和其它落后类别的法律规定,这项指令必不可少。辛德是马哈拉斯特拉邦第一位出身于受惠种姓的首席部长。该高院已将辛德的要求返还给种姓审查委员会,该委员会将对他的要求重做决定。

译者:ken
来源:三泰虎论坛 http://bbs.santaihu.com
外文:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Bombay-high-court-sets-aside-Shindes-caste-certificate/articleshow/32808813.cms

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Bombay high court sets aside Shinde’s caste certificate

孟买高等法院暂停使用辛德的种姓证书

MUMBAI: In a major set back to Union home minister Sushil Kumar Shinde, the Bombay high court on Thursday set aside a caste validity certificate issued to him five years ago.

孟买:星期四,家庭部长苏西尔.库马.辛德五年前拿到的种姓证书被孟买高等法院暂停使用,这对他来说是个重大挫折。

The court said that the caste scrutiny committee had not passed a reasoned order as is mandatory under the law that governs the certification for scheduled caste, scheduled tribes and other backward categories. Shinde was the Maharashtra’s first scheduled caste chief minister.

该法院说,种姓审查委员会没有递来附有理由说明的指令,而针对受惠种姓、受惠 部落、和其它落后类别的法律规定,这项指令必不可少。辛德是马哈拉斯特拉邦第一位出身于受惠种姓的首席部长。

The HC sent Shinde’s claim back to the caste scrutiny committee which will now decide his caste claim afresh. The court directed all parties, including Shinde, to appear before the scrutiny committee on Friday, March 28. The committee has to decide the claim in two months.

该高院已将辛德的要求返还给种姓审查委员会,该委员会将对他的要求重做决定。该法院已指示有关各方,包括辛德,三月二十八日,星期五,在审核委员会出庭。该委员会必须在二个月内对该要求做出决定。

以下是网民评论:

译者:ken
来源:三泰虎论坛 http://bbs.santaihu.com/thread-8427-1-1.html

BC (Alappuzha)

He shall be removed from Union Home Ministry Post.

必须撤掉他家庭部长职务。

LOL (LOL land)

Give Shinde and his langoti-yaar Uttam Cobrafraud a cavity search to figure out their true caste.

对辛德和他的…做一次裸体孔隙搜查,弄清他们的真种姓。

V (Location)

All rich people/All Income-Tax payers should be treated as GENERAL CATEGORY.

所有富人/所有的报税单应按普通类别对待。

Jack Daniels (India)

Why does the cream of cream need these caste certificates? Why not leave it for the needy and downtrodden?

为什么富中之富还要种姓证书?为什么不留给需要的人、底层的人?

Indian (India)

Half knowledge is dangerous… Dear all Read the full story & understand the meaning. Its not a scam or anything else. Matter is undergoing. Either all who given comment are BJP candidates or with half information.

一知半解很危险…各位去读读事情全过程,弄清楚。这不是欺骗或别的什么。亊情正在解决。所有评论者要么是人民党候选人,要么就是一知半解。

Dr Ketan B. Vaishnav (.)

And what is the punishment if convicted?

如果定罪,该判什么?

Bala (Nj)

At least Shinde should resign now.How many frauds?Shame on corrupt congress.

至少辛德要辞职。有了多少欺诈?腐败的国大党不要脸。

kk (in)

Shinde is SC? Yeah… that shows in his work.

辛德出身于受惠种姓?是啊…从他的工作中可以看出来。

V (Location) replies to kk

It is the policy of corrupt and communal Congress to promote inefficient people,otherwise they become threat to Fake Gandhis.

腐败的国大党杂烩,其政策就是提拔庸才,要不然会威胁做作的甘地家族。

kanwal_gill (s)

Shouldn’t Shinde be charged and arrested for filing false caste certificate ?. Shinde has lied about his caste and taken advantage and fighting from reserve constituencies all these years. He should be jailed and all the corrupt money he made after winning the elections should be confiscated.

难道辛德不该以种姓证书造假被起诉,被逮起来吗?他在自己种姓问题上撒谎,捞好处…他该关进牢里,上台以来贪污所得全该充公。

gowrishankar_r_1948 (Location)

As long as we have special privileges for SC every one would like to become a SC. In another 100 years India will have only SCs and the great Mahatma Gandhi will become happy that we have removed the caste system

只要对低种姓和贱民的特殊优惠存在,每个人都想钻进去。再过一百年,印度全都是低种姓和贱民了。到时伟大的M.甘地会兴奋地宣佈:我们铲除了种姓制度。

Senna (Tamilnaidu)

Now Shitte will have to bribe the Caste scrutiny committee. But he cheated the caste members and the voters for 5 LONG YEARS and looted enough money from the treasury.

现在这个垃圾只能去贿赂种姓审核委员会了。可他已经把该种姓成员和选民欺骗了五年之久,从国库中刮走了足够的钱财。

Appa (coimbatore)

He was a chief minister of the state and now a home minister

他做过该州首席部长,现在是家庭部长。

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Just imagine High Court not aooroving Caste certificate of our Home Minister who rose from Peon to the present position due to his cast. He must resign if he has some honour left.

想想吧,我们家庭部长的种姓证书在高院通不过,他靠着种姓从基层人员爬到现在位置。还懂一点廉耻,就必须辞职。

另附:

原文地址:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Citizens-urged-to-verify-caste-census-data/articleshow/29465721.cms

Citizens urged to verify caste census data

敦请各位公民核实种姓普查统计数据

PANAJI: The socio economic and caste census (SECC) data collected after a door-to-door survey in Goa, will now be kept for public scrutiny in village panchayats and municipalities from February 2.

帕那吉:果阿邦逐户调查收集的社会经济和种姓(SECC)普查数据,现已保存于各村务委员会和行政政府,自二月二日起,供民众查对。

Citizens are requested to check their data for corrections and the last date for receipt of claims and objections to the same is February 23.

现要求各位公民请前往核对祥情,(含)二月二十三日前接受错误更改申请,逾期不予受理。

Speaking at a press conference, urban development minister Francis D’Souza said that the entire population of Goa (12.88 lakh people) was covered under the project. The data collected included details like qualifications, caste, disability, chronic illness etc.

城镇发展部长弗朗西斯.德欶扎在一次新闻发布会上说,这项调查涵盖了果阿邦全部人口(一百二十八点八万)。采集的数据包括:职称、种姓、残疾、慢性病等等。

Verification of the data requires prudent checking of specific data like caste, source of income, etc. The corrections approved by the government will be incorporated to formulate the final socio economic and caste census data base in the ministry of rural development and national informatics centre.

核对祥情时,需慎重核对各项数据,如种姓、收入来源等等。由政府部门通过的更改数据,将被采纳,並由乡村发展部和国家信息中心制作成最终社会经济及种姓普查数据库。

“As the data base can be used by the government at a later date for identification of beneficiaries of government schemes, the public is required to verify the data and get the same corrected if necessary, within the specified time frame, D’Souza added.

“政府以后会使用这个数据库,为各项政府计划提供受益者的身份信息。因此,要求公众在指定的时间框架内,核对数据,并进行必要更改,” 德欶扎说。

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  1. 民主,种姓,这对悖论的词语只有在印度这样的奇葩国家才能同时实现,我总是在想,印度人人高喊的民主是什么?难道就是为种姓服务的制度?呵呵,对于阿三真心没有什么太多了言语,希望他们坚持种姓制度一万年不动摇。

  2. 果然,阿三还有种姓证书这种神器! 以后羞辱一个阿三,可以这么说,我能看看你的“种姓证书”吗?

    • 这也算他们破除种姓制度的一种努力吧,不过很坑爹,说到底不能像我们在思想根本上革新废除这种阶级观念,亚洲看一圈(欧美的种族歧视性质不一样),其他地方的阶级真心比中国重很多,哪怕是号称是民主发达国家/地区,他们不一定像印度这样赤裸裸,但是隐性阶级氛围相当明显。中国现在这种阶级主要是贫富分化,说富人享有“特权”,大多数时候无非是你能买我买不到的东西,我能享受你享受不到的有偿服务这样的资本优势,很多是一种社会心态和人文素质的问题…但是在其他国家有些东西是明显不一样的,中国的穷人和富人,虽然穷人也许作为下属或出于利害关系的考虑会对富人言听计从,但在心态上多半还是一种平级的心态(并非财富或权力上);而在其他一些国家,甚至是越发达的越明显,上下阶级从心底里就是非常明显的,一种很微妙的心态…不亲身体会确实不好描述。

        • 是这样的,富裕的低种姓底气不足,除非是在国外,所以低种姓人,或者说非高种姓人往往比较喜欢出国(能突破阶级富裕的绝大多数是平民阶层比如吠舍,低种姓人绝大多数先天环境不足,或者是高种姓混出来的贱民——事实本来就是很有钱的高种姓家庭)。有一些待遇低种姓人即使有钱也是不能享受的(至少不能公开的),他能用钱来雇佣一些破产的高种姓人,但是同样不能公开做一些行为,至于接受雇佣的高种姓是什么心态就不好说了。不过,也有例外,像一些突破种姓发展百年的强大公司集团,像塔塔里面就相对不那么在乎种姓,还有一些变成传统强大人物比如穆迪,低种姓对他来说反而是一个赚取选票的优势。但大部分这个尴尬还是存在,如果一个部门的主管是低种姓人,那么可能工作将无法有效进行。

        • 现在这种所谓阶级像我里面说的,主要是资源上优缺——或者直白的说贫富,和心理上的阶级是不一样的。

  3. Now Shitte will have to bribe the Caste scrutiny committee. But he cheated the caste members and the voters for 5 LONG YEARS and looted enough money from the treasury.现在这个垃圾只能去贿赂种姓审核委员会了。可他已经把该种姓成员和选民欺骗了五年之久,从国库中刮走了足够的钱财。这个我可以理解为选举漏洞么?好比大部分黑人都会投票给奥哥儿。