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印度军队能打赢中国军队么,印网友:印度保持着3:1的胜率

Can the Indian army win over the Chinese army?

印度军队能打赢中国军队么?

 Quora读者的评论:

S Jolly, works at Indian Armed Forces

Answered May 9, 2016

This is tough one!...

Well in terms of sheer numbers Chinese have every thing more than us, weapon, men equipment etc. They also have a bit of psychological advantage over us since they have won one war( 1962)... but that was than, 40 plus years back, fast forward to present situ.. Indian army is very much tough now, has better weaponry and equipment than before, have 3:1 win ratio(3 wins over Pak vs 1 loss to Chinese) and so if God forbid and leaderships of both countries cant resolve issues thru communication on all levels and we land up in battle field it shall NOT be a walk in the park for either of nations!

挺难的!

就绝对数量而言,中国人拥有的武器和装备都比我们更多。1962年那场战争,他们打赢了我们,因此在心理上也比我们更有优势。但那是40多年前的事了,长话短说…印度军队现在拥有更好的武器和军备,保持着3:1的胜率(赢了巴基斯坦3次,输了中国1次)所以如果两国领导人不能通过沟通解决问题,必须开火,对两国来说都非易事!

 

Himanshu Rawat, studied at Father Son Public School

Answered Oct 31, 2014

1.No, China has considerable advantage in terms of Equipments and manpower to halt any prospective suicidal invasion by the Indian army.

  1. Chinese army is the largest standing army ( 1.6 million troops) in the world while Indian army ( 1.2 million troops) is second largest army.
  2. Chinese army fares better in terms of weaponry as compared to Indian army.
  3. Any war between India and China would be fought along the Himalayas as it is the only place where India borders China. Firstly Himalayas in itself is the biggest hurdle for any of the two armies if they are to attack each other besides that the Chinese side of the border has witnessed unprecedented infrastructure development to facilitate the army. China has multi lane highways leading right up to the Indo China border while Indian side of the border lacks even roads at some places ( though that is undergoing change ).
  4. The above point means that China has the capability of transporting 0.4 million of troops to the the Indo-China border within just one week while it will take Indian army 1 month to do the same (due to the reasons cited in 4 point)
  5. 不可能,中国在军备和人力方面有相当大的优势,可以阻止印度军队可能的自杀式入侵。
  6. 中国军队拥有全球最多的现役军(160万),印度军队(120万)是全球第二大军队。
  7. 与印度军队相比,中国军队的武器装备更好。
  8. 中印之间的任何战争都将发生在喜马拉雅山脉,因为这是印度与中国唯一接壤的地方。首先,喜马拉雅山脉本身就是中印两军相互交火的最大障碍,此外,中国一侧的边境也出现了基础设施建设,为中国军队提供了便利。中国有多车道高速公路直通印中边境,而印度一侧的边境有些地方连公路都没有(尽管变化也在发生)。
  9. 这意味着中国有能力在一周内将40万军队运送到印中边境,而印度军队则需要1个月的时间才能完成同样的任务。

So, there is no way Indian army could completely overwhelm the Chinese army however Indian army has sufficient wherewithal to mount a good defence against any Chinese invasion.

So any war between Indian and Chinese army without any involvement of air force would end up into a stalemate with neither side making any territorial gains while the material and manpower loss would be huge considering the fact that it is a battle between the largest and second largest army in the world.

Also Chinese armed forces are far more advanced than than their Indian counterparts. This should be absolutely clear without any doubt as China's Defence budget is more than 4 times of India's.

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所以,印度军队不可能完全打败中国军队,但是印度军队有足够的手段来防御中国的入侵。

所以印度和中国的军队之间的任何战争若没有空军参与,最终都会陷入僵局,考虑到这是一个全球第一和第二大军队之间的战斗,双方都会在投入大量人力物力后依然无法占领对方的领土。

此外,中国军队比印度军队先进得多。毫无疑问,这一点是毋庸置疑的,因为中国的国防预算是印度的4倍之多。

 

Gokul Pillai, studied Cisco Certified Network Associate & Cisco Certified Network Professionals at Network Bulls (2018)

Answered Aug 29, 2017

“Tactics win battles Strategy wins wars ” -

Winning a war doesn’t depend on the number of army personnel or navy or air force of a country. Wars are won by strategies and the optimum use of utilities and assets.The best possible example for this is the Six day war.

Israel went to war with 5 Arab nations and no one in the world supported Israel. This is the scenario :

Israel against Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Lebanon

The Arab nations were supported by Algeria, Kuwait, Libya, Morocco, Pakistan, PLO,Sudan and Tunisia

“战术胜过战役,战略胜过战争”

战争的胜利并不取决于一个国家陆军、海军或空军的数量。战争的胜利取决于战略、对军备和资产的最佳利用。最好的例子就是六日战争。

以色列和5个阿拉伯国家开战,世界上没有人支持以色列。当时的战局是这样的:

以色列跟埃及,叙利亚,约旦,伊拉克和黎巴嫩对战

阿拉伯国家得到阿尔及利亚、科威特、利比亚、摩洛哥、巴基斯坦、巴解组织、苏丹和突尼斯的支持。

Israel deployed around 100K troops and the Arab nations deployed around 240K troops.

The war started on 5th of June 1967 and ended on 10th June 1967 with decisive Israeli victory.

By June 10 1967, Israel had completed its final offensive in the Golan Heights, and a ceasefire was signed the day after. Israel had seized the Gaza Strip, the Sinai Peninsula, the West Bank of the Jordan River (including East Jerusalem), and the Golan Heights.

About one million Arabs were placed under Israel's direct control in the newly captured territories. Israel's strategic depth grew to at least 300 kilometers in the south, 60 kilometers in the east, and 20 kilometers of extremely rugged terrain in the north, a security asset that would prove useful in the Yom Kippur War six years later. The Yom Kippur war was also won by Israel which paved way for the Camp David Peace Accords between Egypt and Israel.

This war speaks volumes of strategy and military tactics used by Israel to mount a heavy offense on the rival nations.

以色列出动了大约10万军队,阿拉伯国家出动了大约24万军队。

战争于1967年6月5日开始,结束于1967年6月10日,以色列取得了决定性的胜利。

1967年6月10日,以色列完成了在戈兰高地的最后进攻,并于第二天签署了停火协议。以色列占领了加沙地带、西奈半岛、约旦河西岸(包括东耶路撒冷)和戈兰高地。

在新占领的领土上,大约100万阿拉伯人处于以色列的直接控制之下。以色列的战略纵深在南部增加了至少300公里,在东部增加了60公里,在北部增加了20公里,地形极其崎岖,这一安全资产在六年后的赎罪日战争中发挥了作用。以色列也打赢了赎罪日战争,为埃及和以色列之间的戴维营和平协议铺平了道路。

这场战争充分说明了以色列用来对敌对国家发动沉重打击的战略和战术。

War is not good for any nation. War will bring down the economy so badly it will hard on both nations to mount a comeback.

As for the Chinese they are just doing what they are told to do.China wants India to play by its rules. The 3 way warfare tactics (media, legal and psychological warfare tactics) doesn’t work on India. It may work on countries like the Philippines but India is an all together different frontier. Having said so India is peace loving country and want peaceful relations with all its neighbors. War is not an option for anyone.

Say No to war and Yes to peace!

战争对任何国家都没有好处。战争将严重拖累经济,两国都很难东山再起。

至于中国人,他们只是完成上级下达的指令。中国希望印度遵守他的规则。3种战争战术(媒体、法律和心理战术)对印度不起作用。对菲律宾这样的国家可能有效,但印度完全不同。印度是一个爱好和平的国家,希望与所有邻国建立和平关系。战争对任何人来说都不是一个好的选择。

对战争说不,为和平叫好!

 

Eric Westra

Answered Jul 12, 2016

Well, let’s compare and see:

China (PRC) | India

GDP Nominal (millions of USD)

11,380,000 | 2,183,000

GDP PPP (millions of USD)

19,510,000 | 7,965,000

Population

1,373,840,000 | 1,281,780,000

Total Military Budget (billions USD)

$145.8 | $48.0

中国|印度

名义国内生产总值(百万美元)

11380000 | 2183000

国内生产总值购买力平价(百万美元)

19510000 | 7965000

人口

1373840000 | 1281780000

军事预算总额(数十亿美元)

145.8 | 48.0

Military Budget Per Soldier (USD) (

$62,508 | $35,629

Combined Military Capability

47,894 | 13,928

Land Power Score

52,678 | 22,496

Air Power Score

70,111 | 27,438

Sea Power Score

135,450 | 36,991

每个士兵的军事预算(美元)

62508 | 35629

结合军事能力

47894 | 13928

陆军实力

52678 | 22496

空军实力

70111 | 27438

海军实力

135450 | 36991

Military Transportation Score

280,558 | 66,525

Total War Potential Score

513,069 | 88,662

Navy Tonnage (metric tons)

1,128,192 | 334,364

Military Satellites

77 | 5

Nuclear Warheads

260 | 110

军事运输

280558 | 66525

战争潜力

513069 | 88662

海军吨位(公吨)

1128192 | 334364

军事卫星

77 | 5

核弹头

260 | 110

It seems to me that China (PRC) has the upper hand.

在我看来,中国更占优势。

 

Yogesh Mehta, works at Facebook

Answered May 9, 2016

To be realistic, Both have its own strength and weaknesses. Chinas strength is self reliance on domestic production of heavy equipment like tanks, fighter jets etc . China also has economical advantage. The negative part of China it doesn't have much allies against India, Russia is far more closer to India than China and would support India militarily. Second disadvantage of China is it has not been involved in any major war since 1965. Hence its equipment is not tested as much as India's Army equipment like most recently in 1999 Kargil. India's Strength are higher quality fighter jets from Russia like Su30, 34 and new generation MIGs , a recent purchase of 100 Rafaele jets all if which proven to be excellent in multiple recent conflicts. So the numerical advantage of Chinese fighter jets will be offset with more advanced and battle tested Warplanes India has. Perhaps Indian warplanes could achieve better control over the skies depending on the level of damage they put on the Chinese. Also India has advanced battle tested Anti aircraft defense acquired in large numbers from Russia. So India clearly has more advantage in air based on real world data. India's other advantage is it can blockade Chinese oil shipping routes to the middle east , whereas India's routes to oil rich gulf nations are far from china to mount attack. India's weakness in comparison to china is economy to sustain prolonged war. India has a major co ption issue,whereas China fares much better. India could aid from Russia and allies but that's not guaranteed. Other disadvantage for India : China can use Pakistan to put their troops near Indian border in an attempt to divert Indian army away from the front with China. Pakistan depending on China for military and economic benefits will most likely do this probably with minor incursions but avoid getting into full fledged war. Overall it will be stalemate, but India probably with more advantage.

现实地说,两者都各有优缺点。中国的实力是依靠国内生产的坦克、战斗机等重型装备。中国的经济也有优势。中国的劣势是没有太多的盟友来对抗印度,俄罗斯和印度的关系比中国更亲近,她会在军事上支持印度。中国的第二个劣势是自1965年以来,中国都没有参加过任何重大战争。因此,它的军备不像印度军队那样,经过多次测试,印度最近一次参战是1999年的卡吉尔战争。印度的优势是来自俄罗斯的质量更优的战机,比如Su30、34和新一代米格战机,印度最近购买了100架阵风战机。因此,中国战机的数量优势将被印度更先进的、经过实战考验的战机所抵消。或许印度战机可以更好地控制领空,这取决于它们对中国造成的损害程度。此外,印度还对从俄罗斯大量购买的防空系统进行了先进的战斗测试。因此,根据真实的数据,印度空军显然拥有更多优势。印度的另一个优势是,它可以封锁中国通往中东的石油运输路线,而印度通往石油资源丰富的海湾国家的通路则远离中国的进攻。与中国相比,印度的弱点在于经济,无法支撑长期的战争。印度存在严重的附败问题,而中国的情况要好得多。印度可以从俄罗斯和盟友那里获得援助,但这并没有保障。印度的另一个劣势是:中国可以利用巴基斯坦将其军队部署在印度边境附近,企图将分流处在中国前线的印度军队。巴基斯坦在军事和经济利益上依赖中国,很可能通过小规模的入侵来达到这一目的,但不会陷入全面战争。总的来说,战事将陷入僵局,但印度可能拥有更多优势。

 

Anjit, Seen the men in Olive green.

Answered Aug 14, 2017

Man, I’ve got a good one for you.

What if I told you India has not only conquered but dominated China?

What if I told you that we conquered China for not one day, not one month, not one year, not even one century but for 20 centuries?

And what if I told you, we did that without ever sending a single soldier across our border?

You Don’t Have To Believe Me, But You have to Believe The Former Ambassador Of China To The USA Hu Shih .

伙计,我有个好东西给你看。

如果我告诉你印度不仅能征服中国,还会统治中国,你会怎么想?

如果我告诉你,我们占领中国的时间不是短短一天,不是一个月,也不是一年,甚至不止一个世纪,而是两个世纪,你会怎么想?

如果我告诉你,我们在没有出动一名士兵越过边境的情况下就占领了中国,你会怎么想?

你不一定要相信我,但你必须相信前任中国驻美国大使胡适。
 

Why shed our brave soldiers’ blood, when we can do it ourselves!

Thank you!

既然我们自己就能做到,为什么还要让勇敢的士兵抛头颅洒热情呢?

谢谢你!

 

Saurav Thapa, M.Com from Hemvati Nandan Bahuguna Garhwal University, Uttarakhand, India

Updated Dec 27, 2017

Make it very simple.

Indian army is one if the finest armies of the world. Our soldiers are strong, brave and no lesser than any other soldier in the world.

But still our army facing the big problems in terms of weapons and other war accessories. Bad Politics and co ption making our armies weak.

很简单,来看看:

印度军队是世界上最先进的军队之一。我们的士兵强壮、勇敢,不输世界上任何士兵。

但是我们的军队仍然面临着武器和其他战争装备方面的大问题。糟糕的政治和附败使我们的军队不堪一击。

1- Infantry soldier still using INSAS rifle which is no match in the international level. AK 47 and 56 rifles are performance and trustworthy during war but not enough to supply all the army. We need more advanced rifle for our soldier

2- Shortage of good bullet proof jacket, night vision camera and other useful stuff which saves our soldier life in the war.

3- we have a Boforce Gun but still army facing the shortage of his spare parts.

4- Our special forces needs more special weapons and need to upgrade them as per international level.

5- As per one reports if the big war happens between IND and China. China has a reserved petrol or fuel where he can fight for 60 to 80 days where IND can only fight for 30 to 40 days.

6- Same goes for Navy and Airforce too. China has more fighter jets and warship and submarines than IND.

Now you guys tell whose fault is it. Army always give his requirement list to the govt but its never fulfilled as per requirements.

We shouldn't loose hope in our Army.

Jai Hind.

1-步兵仍在使用英萨斯步枪,这和其他国家根本不能比。AK 47和56步枪在战争中性能良好,值得信赖,但我们没能力让全军上下都装备这些枪。我们的士兵需要更先进的步枪。

2-缺少优良的防弹衣,夜视相机和其他能在战争中拯救我们士兵的生命的有用的东西。

3-我们有Boforce枪,但军队仍然面临着零配件短缺的问题。

4-我们的特种部队需要更多的特种武器,需要参照国际水准进行升级。

5-据报道,如果印度和中国发生大战争。中国储备的汽油或燃料可以维持60到80天的需求,而印度国防工业只能维持30到40天。

6-海军和空军也是如此。中国拥有的战斗机、军舰和潜艇比印度都多。

现在你们说说,这是谁的错。军队一直把需求清单提交给政府,但从来没有按需求满足过。

我们不应该对我们的军队失去希望。

印度必胜。

 

Sharat Chandra, lived in India

Answered Jul 12, 2016

Yeah yeah all the stats and stuff show the Chinese as mighty and powerful and India as weak compared to it.

If stats are the main indication then how come Vietnam defeated USA?

How come Vietnam defeat China?

Japan defeated Russia in 1905?

Japan defeated and ruled China though way back, how did that happen?

Yes China has an upper hand in numbers but that doesn't ensure victory at all.

It takes a lot to win a war, not just numbers to back you up.

And for the record north Korea has a larger army compared to Russia. But we know if at all they go to war, the updated world map will show ocean in the place of north Korea.

是的,所有的数据和资料都显示中国更强,印度较弱。

如果数据是那么重要的指征,那么越南为什么能打败美国呢?

为什么越南能打败中国呢?

日本能在1905年打败俄国?

日本能在很久以前打败并统治中国,这是怎么发生的?

是的,中国在数量上占了上风,但这根本不能保证她获得胜利。

打赢战争有众多因素,不仅仅是规模。

与俄罗斯相比,朝鲜的军队规模更大。但我们知道,如果他们真的开战,最新的世界地图上朝鲜将沦为沧海。

 

Balaji Balaji

Answered Nov 13, 2015

In 1962 Indians were ill prepared,having outdated equipments and caught completely unaware.But now things are different .India now has fourth largest armed force in the world. Indian firepower now closely matches PLA.Even though Chinese outnumbered Indians,the future war with India will not be a cakewalk for Chinese.Nobody will win if future war breaks and would bring outmost destruction for both.

1962年,印度人准备不足,装备陈旧,完全没有防备。但现在情况不同了,印度现在拥有世界第四大武装力量。印度现在的攻击力与解放军不相上下。尽管中国士兵的数量超过了印度,但未来与印度的战争对中国人来说也绝非易事。如果未来的战争爆发,没有人会赢,而是会给双方带来最大的破坏。

 

Bin, studied at New York City

Answered Jul 27, 2018

Surly yes!

当然能啦! 

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As you can see, these are screenshots from the 2018 Chinese New Year Greeting shows. Believe it or not, Chinese Air Force is still using J-7s, which is designed in 1950s. The Army is even worse, dozens of soldiers only get ONE T-34. OMG! It is a WW2 tank. You can barely find one T34 in many countries museums. Thanks to the huge gap in weapons, Indian Army is way better than Chinese Army.

如你所见,这些是2018年春节新年问候的截图。信不信由你,中国空军仍在使用上世纪50年代设计的J-7。陆军的情况更糟,几十名士兵只配备一辆T-34。天啊,这可是二战时期的坦克了。在许多国家的博物馆里都很难觅到T34的踪影了。由于武器上的巨大差距,印度军队比中国军队要出色得多。

 

Prem Nil Lal, Indain forces. I study the Indian Forces.

Answered May 31, 2016

The people say that the Chinese are better equipped withthis that and the other but china remember that India had three to four wars with your friend Pakistan. China you have to come over the Himalayas via Tib,hundreds of trucks can be seen by satellite. India Army will not be willing face a second defeat by China; the people of India would not accept this. The India people and the Army will want revenge for 1962; they will force out the politicians who are weak. The Indian Army is not weak but they are strong,you just have to tell them fight China and Pakistan which I know they would love to. India economy is stronger than 1962 they did not have the money, I want to fight the Chinese and I would lead the Army to win to take back what we last.

大家都说中国人这样那样的装备更好,但是中国请记住,印度和你的朋友巴基斯坦打过三到四场战争。中国必须通过xz越过喜马拉雅山,卫星就能监测到数百辆卡车。印度军队不会希望第二次输给中国;印度人民不会接受这一点。印度人民和军队希望为1962年复仇;他们将迫使软弱的印度政客下台。印度军队并不弱,他们很强大,你只需要告诉他们跟中国和巴基斯坦作战,我知道他们会很乐意的。印度经济比1962年的时候更强大了,当时他们没有钱,我想和中国人作战,我要带领军队赢回我们最后的胜利。

 

Kashish Kumar, works at Sharda University

Answered Oct 20, 2014

Surely INDIA will win ,china have 3rd generation weapons with more in counting,whereas, INDIA holds 4 and 4.5 generation weapons with less in counting as compared to china only.And most important factor,the new go nment of INDIA,which have good solutions in terms of foreign policies and and specially war.

印度肯定会赢,论数量,中国是拥有更多的第三代武器,但印度拥有4代和4.5代武器。最重要的因素是印度的新政府,他们在外交政策,特别是战争方面有很好的解决方案。

 

Varun Gupta

Answered Apr 8, 2017

It is fine that China has the largest army in the world. They can win us. But we Indians are not fools.if anyone attack us we will fight till the end. We will not live as sl ves. There will be a nuclear war. But I hope that both the countries are tolerant and resume their friendly relationships.

中国拥有世界上最庞大的军队,没关系。他们可以赢我们。但我们印度人不是傻瓜。如果有人攻击我们,我们将战斗到底。我们不会像努力一样生活。未来会有一场核战争。但我希望两国相互包容,恢复友好关系。

 

Pavol Kosnáč, PhD. researcher, Masaryk University, Czech Republic

Answered Oct 12, 2014

If defending India, yes. If attacking China, no

如果是要保卫印度,肯定会赢。如果是进攻中国,不可能。

 

Quora User

Answered Oct 13, 2014

No. I don't think so. China is at least three to four times stronger than India.

不。我不这么想。中国的经济实力至少是印度的三到四倍。

 

Quora User

Answered Jul 3, 2017

China beat India when it was poorer than India. Now its 5 times more rich. PLA is atleast 3 times more powerful. India would lose any war very quickly.

中国在比印度穷的时候就打败了印度。现在中国比印度富裕5倍。人民解放军的威力至少是印度的3倍。印度会很快输掉任何战争。

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