Which one is better - CRH (China Railway High-speed) or Shinkansen (Japanese Super Express)?
To compare the shinkansen and Chinese CRH is somwewhat akin to comparison between a Rolls-Royce and a Geely.
The Japanese shinkansen literally invented commercial high-speed rail travel, introduced in time for the 1964 summer Olympics. Its technology has been refined and perfected ever since, and the shinkansen network has a *literal* perfect safety record for casualties - there has never been a single passenger death due to accident or mismanagement in 54 years of service. Might I also add; that service runs 365 days a year, 19 hours a day, on some lines every 3 MINUTES, and speeds up to 330km/h. Your local city subway probably doesn’t run every 3 minutes.
By contrast, the Chinese high-speed rail system is a hodge-podge of purchased and outright-stolen technology from every worldwide high-speed manufacturer, and the network was built to its huge size in the span of barely a decade at huge expense. You can literally see the deliberate intent in the purchase orders made by the Chinese state railways; trainsets from Kawasaki, Kinki Sharyo, Alstom, Siemens, Bombardier. Chinese state railways purchased them all with the intent to reverse-engineer them and build competing products to internalize their own network and export competing products abroad, which they are now attempting to do with newer CRH-series trainsets.
Alexis Eggermont, Lived in China
My experiences on both have been quite similar. Similar speed (the CRH used to reach 350 km/h but this was brought down to 300), similar smoothness, both very comfortable. The main difference (again, my experience only) is CRH trains being more crowded and noisy (noise generated by people, not the train).
For safety, the Shinkansen has a spotless record. The Shinkansen has been operating longer but as of 2015 has a network almost 10 times smaller than the CRH (List of high-speed rail lines), so I could imagine that the number of cumulative passenger-kilometers traveled on the CRH is now higher than the Shinkansen. I do not think it's possible to extract statistically significant patterns from so few incidents.
Generally, I believe the CRH is cheaper per kilometer traveled, as is generally the case when it comes to transportation in China vs Japan.
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While some try using historical achievements of the Japanese Shinkansen (invention of the HS trains) I don’t see how that really matters to somebody who wants to have a good and comfortable journey.
Let’s look at the objective criteria:
- Speed. CRH takes the cake here. Much of the HS network in China is designed for 350+KM/H operation. Capped at 310KM/H for most part and 350KM/H on Beijing Shanghai line. Both maximum and average speeds are exceeding anything on the Shinkansen network.
- Comfort. CRH wins here easily. Simply because tracks are new and built to much higher technical specs. 7000m curve radius on 300+KM/H lines al;lowing to make turns at 350+KM/H, ballastless tracks and continuous 350KM/H speeds for THOUSANDS of kilometers are unheard of in Japan or anywhere else in the world for that matter. While this is indeed because it’s new (Shinkansen is obviously much older for most part) the fact remains that CRH is a faster AND more comfortable train service.
- Service. Shinkansen takes this one as Japan has extraordinarily good service culture and Shinkansen is part of that. CRH service is also good though.
- Stations. Japanese stations tend to be smaller but centrally located. CRH stations tend to be larger, more spacious and located outside city core (exceptions exist though).
- Safety. Shinkansen has a pretty much perfect track record in terms of fatalities. Despite that both systems should be considered as very safe provided the network size and ridership figures.
- Overall technology. CRH takes this one. As mentioned before, due to objectively higher tech specs applied to tracks and trains. While Japanese train makers and engineers are probably capable to match their Chinese colleagues this only applies in theory as it would not make economic sense for Japan to upgrade everything just to increase the speed and comfort a bit. In practice China has got better technology which is actually functioning so, once again, this goes to CRH.
To sum it all up, China has faster, more comfortable trains which run on a larger and more advanced infrastructure. Japan has better service and safety record. You decide which one you prefer.
PauLo Huang, Chinese
In technology terms, the latest CRH is a hybrid of Japanese Shinkansen, French TGV and German ICE. Early versions of CRH is the Japanese Shinkansen or French TGV or German ICE, because China directly imported these models and technologies.
If you have travelled with any of these three high speed trains, chances are they look and feel like very much the same.
In terms of comfort, Chinese travelers are lourd, which is well known worldwide. So there will be more noise than Shinkansen. And it is allowed to bring your own meal and beverages onboard the train, also hot meals and instant noodles are served inside the train. So there will be a bit problem regarding the odor. Early models of CRH have only squat toilets so be careful when you travel between Beijing and Tianjin, Shanghai and Hangzhou, on these oldest CRH lines there are still squat toilets.
Apart from these three issus, CRH is a bit wider and bigger than Shinkansen, so you will have more space in second class seats, if you are in first and special class or sleeper class, this will be very comfortable.
In terms of price, cost per km for CRH is lower than Shinkansen, but China is much bigger, the longest CRH line is from Harbin to Wuhan(14 hours and 2446 km), cost 880 yuan for second class.
Oh joy, another troll question on Quora. Let me ask you which is better; a Rolex watch or a Chinese knockoff Rolex watch? The Chinese railway ministry contracted to have Hitachi, Alstom, Siemens and Bombardier designs produced and then after receiving several train sets continued to build them itself.
By contrast the Japanese are world pioneers in high speed train travel. They introduced it and by and large single handedly perfected it, designing and putting the Shinkansen network into place more than 10 years before any other country in 1964.
at peak times on the Tokaido Shinkansen trains run every three minutes and the average annual punctuality record of the network is less than 20 seconds late across all services, despite routes that run up to 900km. In 50 YEARS of service, carrying over 7 BILLION passengers, the Japanese Shinkansen network has never had a single passenger fatality due to accident onboard. Not even ONE. (obviously and sadly, suicides don't count here)
but I think the safety record and punctuality record speak for themselves.
in fact, Shinkansen is not as safe as many people think .
Shinkansen had accidents in these dates.
and little accidents are not included.
Shinkansen in England
Shinkansen chassis fracture
railway accident in japan
then why didnt we hear about this accidents？
well, get ur imagination full operate.
yes, CRH had an accidents in 2011.
but why all u guys know about this？ and at the same time no one know about Shinkansen accidents？
all hail japanese and western media！
As an experience, Shinkansen scores over easily. Considering the vast area served, CRH is better. I’d still give the final win to Shinkansen as they invented it 50 plus years ago, a time when many countries were still involved in lengthening their existing rail network, Japanese were thinking about the Shinkansen. Lastly, as an Indian I’d back Shinkansen because it will ply between Mumbai and Ahmedabad shortly
UPENDRA PRASAD, Graduate from Vinoba Bhave University (1997)
See,it depends upon the conditions prevailing.
First of all,in a densely populated region like China the CRH is better since the are of great speed and great comfort like the trains of our country.The most advantage of the trains is that even though they are of less speed than the Shinkansen,the are useful because they have more passenger capacity and in the urban areas in China mainly,more passenger capacity is must like the use of oxygen for breathing.But in lesss populated countries like Japan,Shinkansen is better since it reqiures less energy and has accurate arrangements for all the passengers.
So at last I would prefer the CRH over the Japanese Shikansen due to its passenger capacity.But comparing them means comparing BMW and Mercedes.
Key difference between the Shinkansen & CRH is that on the Shinkansen there is almost no chance that a kid will poop on a seat, in the aisle, or in a trash can.
Not sure how often this happens on the CRH but given how many Chinese adults let kids poop in places that aren't toilets I was surprised that I couldn't actually find any reports of it.
For a while it will be Japanese one simply because shinkansen never had fatal accidents in +50 years of operation.
Chinese one could be faster, smoother, cheaper etc but it must operate at least few decades without a fatality to be in the same league of statistical comparison.
Japanese engineers and designers went through trial and error, creating the first high-speed rail in 1964, just in time for their first olympics. China basically copied Japan’s already-invented Shinkansen and made their own name for it.
Quora User, B.S IT Engineering, Université of Bejaia (2013)
Who is better?
Top speed under operation:
China 400Km/h VS Japan 320Km/h
China: 22,000 km VS Japan: 2,765 Km
you know who is better
Herman Wong, born and raised in Hong Kong and proud to be Chinese.
I’ve taken both the Shinkansen and the Chinese HSR (Gaotie).
Statistically speaking, the Shinkansen is safer, as it has a very clean safety record and the trains are very punctual. The Chinese Gaotie’s safety record was slightly tarred by the 2011 Wenzhou collision incident, but that was technically due to a faulty signal unrelated to the trains themselves. In regular service, Chinese trains are also very safe, considering the lack of incidents across such a large system.
For the best trains in both systems, the Shinkansen and the Gaotie have operating speeds of up to 300 km/h. The trains of both systems are domestically produced in their respective countries. Currently, the Japanese Shinkansen uses the N700 Series trains, and for the Chinese Gaotie, the CRH380A.
The Gaotie was designed to operate at speeds up to 350 km/h, but the maximum speed was cut down to 300 km/h at some point. This decision may have been made due to energy consumption issues, as going at 350 km/h uses up a lot more power (compared to 300 km/h) in exchange for a minor difference in speed.
In terms of riding experience, I honestly can’t say which service is definitively better. In my opinion, it felt like the Chinese trains offered a smoother ride: half the time I didn’t even notice when the train pulled out of the station, and even at top speed, you don’t feel a thing. If not for the scenery flashing by outside the window and the “301km/h” on the display, you’d think the train was stationary.
Of course, this isn’t to say that Shinkansen rides aren’t smooth, but the riding experience isn’t as impeccable as the Gaotie’s. Both services are excellent and in practice, this is a very minor difference. I felt completely at ease taking both. The train arrives, you step on board, and it’s smooth sailing from there.