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“天空”平板电脑生产商:”印度制造”比中国制造成本高

2016-02-28 20:33 96个评论 字号:

Make in India costs more than made in China: Aakash tablet maker

‘天空’平板电脑生产商:’印度制造‘比中国制造成本高

Questioning the feasibility of Freedom 251, Datawind CEO Suneet Singh Tuli trashed the explanation given by Noida-based startup Ringing Bells that domestic manufacturing have allowed them to offer the world’s cheapest smartphone for just Rs 251 or less than $4.

在责疑’自由251’的可行性时,’数据风’公司总裁突里鞭斥了设在诺伊达的创业公司’响铃’给出的解释 – 本国生产允许他们提供全世界最便宜的智能手机,只要251卢比,或者说低于4美元。

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“Firstly, make in India is actually assemble in India. While local assembling is the first step towards local manufacturing, it is impossible to have such a huge impact on the bill of materials,” Tuli said.

突里说, “首先,印度制造实际上就是印度装配。虽说本土装配是朝着本土制造跨出的第一步,但它不可能对原材料帐单产生如此巨大的影响。”

Ringing Bells president Ashok Chadha in an interview with The Times of India said that the company would not only sell the smartphone for Rs 251 but also make a profit of Rs 31 from each unit. Chadha primarily stressed that “economies of scale, domestic manufacturing and online sales without much marketing expenses” is allowing them to deliver the world’s cheapest smartphone.

‘响铃’总裁茶打在一次印度时报的采访中说,该公司不但会以251卢比出售这智能手机,而且还会每部赢利31卢比。他还着重强调,“经济规模、本国生产以及沒有多少营销花费的网上销售”,允许他们搞成功世界上最便宜的智能手机。

It is questionable as to what impact does online sales and marketing have on the actual cost of components or the total bill of materials.

至于在网上做销售和市㘯营销对元器件实际成本,或者说总材料帐单有什么影响,值得责疑。

During the launch, Chadha while justifying the price of Freedom 251 said, “The cost of making one unit of the smartphone is around Rs 2,000. By making in India, this price goes down by Rs 400. Then we will sell online only. So, this pulls down the price by Rs 400 further. We are sure that this smartphone will be in a lot of demand. We are assuming to save around Rs 500 from this economy of scale. At last, we wait for our platform to grow, so, that we can make money from other services.”

在推向市场期间,茶打为’自由251’的价格自圆其说道,“制造一只智能手机的成本在2,000卢比左右。通过’印度制造’,这个价格下降400卢比。然后,我们只做网上销售,所以又进一步拉下400卢比。我们确定这只智能手机需求会很大。我们假定这个经济规模会省去500卢比。最后,我们等待我们的平台扩展,因此,我们能够从其它服务中挣钱。”

In reply to this, Tuli said, “To take advantage of economies of scale, Ringing Bells has to be of the likes of Samsung in the market. The promise of just delivering 25 lakh units online and another 25 lakh units offline is not that big to have such a drastic impact on the making costs. Also, it is absurd to hear that online sales will have an impact on the bill of materials.”

在回应上述言论时,突里说,“要从经济规模中获利,’响铃’必须要有类似于三星在市㘯上的规模。仅仅250万只网上销售、另外250万只网下销售,这个许诺还没大到可以对制造成本产生如此巨大的影响。还有,’网上销售会对原材料进货帐单产生影响’,这话听起来荒唐可笑。”

Commenting on the ‘make in India’ advantage, Tuli said, “In reality, make in India costs more than made in China. Local assembly simply provides some duty benefits. However, in no way can it help Ringing Bells reduce the cost by around Rs 400 per unit for a Rs 2,000 smartphone.”

评论’印度制造’的好处时,突里说,“在现实中,’印度制造’的成本高于’中国制造’。本地装配只是提供一些关税好处。但是,这完全不可能帮助’响铃’把一只2,000卢比的智能手机成本削去400卢比左右。”

Amidst all apprehension, the Aakash maker summarised the entire hype around Freedom 251 by saying, “Freedom 251 is just a marketing promotion of an existing Chinese product already being sold in Nehru Place (in New Delhi). It is impossible. The price of 1GB RAM and 8GB ROM is more than the price of the device. There is no innovation but do expect surprises soon.”

纷纷疑虑中,’天空’(平板电脑)制造商对围绕’自由251’的所有大话做了如下总结,“自由251仅仅是对一个现有的、已经在尼赫鲁广场(在新德里)出售的中国产品的市场推销。那是不可能做到的。1GB RAM和8GB ROM的价格已经比这装置的价格高了。不具创意,却盼着一鸣惊人。”

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以下为评论翻译:

译者:ken
来源:http://www.santaihu.com/2016022806.html

Nazeer Khan
Tuli may right on his view. May be the application installed in this device may bring some additional revenue to the Ringing bells.

突里的观点也许是对的。或许安装在这手机的应用软件会给’响铃’带来额外收入。

 

TrueIndian
What application installed on that mobile will bring in revenues?

安装在那手机的什么应用会带来收入?

 

TruthTeller
‘Make In INDIA costs more than Made In China’ This is so true because of corrupt, lazy govt officials and corrupt politicians. Indian govt interested in sucking money only from middle class and giving freebies to (so called) poor and heavy loans to rich which in turn would be defaulted.

‘印度制造’ 的成本高于 ‘中国制造’。因为腐败、懒散的政府官员和腐败的政客,这话讲得太对了。印度政府感兴趣的是吸榨中产阶层钱财、给(所谓的)穷人免费物品,还有,给富人巨额贷款,这随后就会变成坏帐。

 

Umesh
Of course it will be expensive as compared to China because they already have technology to handle the operations efficiently and already has much more better infrastructure for everything as compared to India. China has started making many things automatised which will increase efficiency and lower down the overall cost. This is the area where India lags by miles. So, Make In India will be more expensive than Made In China.

跟中国比当然贵了,因为他们已经有了管控有效运作的技术、已经有了在各方面比印度好得多得多的基础设施。中国已经开始在许多东西上搞自动化,这将提高效率、降低总成本。这个领域印度落后于千里之外。所以,’印度制造’会比’中国制造’更加贵。

 

amit
Yes Umesh Totally agree to you , But somewhere even china also has started with the same or worst infra then india , they grew and reach to the level where they are today .. There are many obstacles and challenges for Make In India but , we need to start , right ? I m not sure about this freedom 251 but for other startups , we should promote them , we should be buying looking at MADE IN INDIA rather then MADE in CHINA even with the slightly higher charges. Then only the dream of “Golden BIRD” …

对啊,Umesh,完全同意你的说法。可是,中国也是在同印度一样或者更差的条件下起步、成长並达到他们今天的地步…印度制造有很多障碍和挑战,但是,我们需要起步,对吧?我对这个 ‘自由251’吃不准,但对其它新创企业,我们应该宣扬,我们该看着’印度制造’ 买,而不是中国制造,即便收费稍微高点。…

 

Prem
Is it Chinese dumping idea. Also check the radiation levels. There might be a health risk using this mobile.

这是中国倾销的主意吗?也得检查辐射水平。用这手机可能有健康风险。

 

FactCheck
Simple.
Prison labor, piling 10 people in a 10×12 room, working them 16 hours a day, human rights abuse, child labor and no labor unioin makes Chinese manufacturing cheap.
Question is, does India want to follow the salve model?
Tuli needs to wake up and face realities. May be he should read Michael Porter’s Competitive Advantage and get familair with the Five Forces Model; and old framework but still applies to a global competitive market.

简单啊。囚犯劳工,10×12的屋子塞10个人,让他们一天干16小时,侵犯认全、童工以及没有劳动工会使得中国制造便宜。

问题是,印度想要跟着走这个奴隶模式吗?…

 

nrbulusu
Made in China is cheap but low quality. Let us make in India little bit cost but durable quality wise.

中国制造是便宜,但质量差。让我们在印度生产,贵一点但质量耐用。

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  1. 因为中国人的勤劳及对美好生活的向往,并且深知人间正道是沧桑的道理所以中国制造的成本相对于绝大部分国家来说是低廉的,而硬度人与中国人的性格截然相反,所以印度制造不可能在价格上打败中国,只能走高端路线,毕竟世界没有对印度进行技术封锁,可几十年来印度依然在大部分领域技术落后于中国,我想除了政府的问题外最主要的原因依然是国民特性和民族文化的原因

  2. Maddy
    India is againist China every way it’s possible especially current govt. why it ever would want dumptruck of china ? when its trying its ballout to become manufacturing hub like china

    印度以种种方式反对中国,只要有可能,尤其是现政府。为什么它要不停地往中国身上倒垃圾?什么时候它会试着用自己的选票变成象中国那样的制造中心
    [委屈]千万不要学我们,硬度毕竟是民煮国家可以随便强奸妹子多好啊!全世界都在羡慕硬度!胜利属于硬度——墓地大法师[偷笑]

  3. 简单啊。囚犯劳工,10×12的屋子塞10个人,让他们一天干16小时,侵犯认全、童工以及没有劳动工会使得中国制造便宜。

    问题是,印度想要跟着走这个奴隶模式吗?…。。。。。。。。。。这个黑奴太金典了哈哈

  4. nrbulusu
    Made in China is cheap but low quality. Let us make in India little bit cost but durable quality wise.

    中国制造是便宜,但质量差。让我们在印度生产,贵一点但质量耐用。
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    我认为最有质量的就是这句“印度生产,贵一点但质量耐用”[哈哈][哈哈][哈哈]

  5. Seham
    probably he conveniently forgets ” Forced Labour System ” prevailing in Red Dragon’s Kingdom

    也许他轻易就忘了遍布’红龙王国’的’强迫劳动制’。。。。。。。。。。我们中国有这样的制度吗[疑问]

  6. 中国制造是便宜,但质量差。让我们在印度生产,贵一点但质量耐用。
    黑三你能制造物美价廉的印度国产货,你们的黑心商人就不会进口特低价的中国造了。
    阿三你个猪头,国产货比进口货还要贵,质量还不如进口货,老百姓会买吗?别提啥爱国主义,老百姓兜里的钱最实在

    • [被砸]等着看戏吧. 三哥的尿性 造飞机30几年 驱逐舰潜艇50年 都说是自主研制的.印度连面板都造不出 芯片 雷达印度能造的出哪个 一艘驱逐舰东买西买 组装出来竟然一艘48亿美元.美国都用不起! 猜猜造电厂得多少年.三哥的仅有的电厂设备都是中国造 [叹气]

  7. 中国制造是便宜,但质量差。让我们在印度生产,贵一点但质量耐用。

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    嗯,严重同意,我知道至少有一样东西在印度一般能用几十年甚至上百年,而中国货用一次就得扔了。大家都知道是什么东西了吧。

      • 这倒不只是阿三的问题,其实全世界很多第三国家的屁民都这鸟样,具体原因挺多,一下也说不清楚。毕竟大部分人本来就无知,而且自己的穷屌丝国家也没义务科普土鳖的现代化程度。很多都图方便,直接拿了西方的二手(戴着嵌入的诋毁洗脑)资料来瞅两眼,翻译成本国资料普及给民众。再再加上那些屁民也没钱来土鳖亲身见证下真实的面貌。好多年前土鳖在北非高速公路的时候我还挺蛋疼的找了些法语论坛看阿尔及利亚人都怎么看土鳖的。基本调调跟阿三差不多,都是怎么我们国家有这么多工人跟工程师不用,叫来一群土鳖云云。应该外包给美国人,他们才是世界上最棒的云云。反正各种无知,让你真心无力吐槽。其实美国50年代把高速公路网建好之后,近50年基本啥屁都没干了,还能有屁的工程能力。。。。。。。

        • 你没说到点子上。这个世界上只有白人和黄种人是智商最高的。所以只有强者才有资格互相对抗。美国要围堵中国一点不奇怪。至于那些屎坑国家就是被人忽悠的角色。你看看美国用它的民 主普世价值笼络了多少所谓的盟友。东亚的韩日,台湾,新加坡等。至于阿三嘛,那就是属于烂泥扶不上墙的垃圾货色。除非中国的这套东西哪天战胜了美帝。你看这些墙头草立马就倒向了中国。你信不信。

          • 波斯人的智商不低,虽然人口上不去。波斯那个跟新疆差不多大的鸟地方,也没什么大川大河,愣是养着相当于新疆4倍的人口。所以应该庆幸现代工业阶段下波斯人口上不了规模,以后什么样就不知道了。另外希伯来鬼子的智商才是平均最高的

  8. 先不说中国货怎么样,喂!三星起家那可是出了名的山寨,低等,抄袭,在欧美澳洲都禁卖过(如果不是国内就爱外国货,连伊拉克奶粉都说进口的就买,要不今天三星算个毛?),三哥步入当年天朝排外+排内时代。

  9. 所谓的印度制造 实际上比中国的山寨机还要不如 山寨机还请人做个模板多少还有点自己的东西 印度呢 连开源的系统都是中国做出来的 什么东西都是别人家的 自己就打拧几个螺丝 合几个卡扣 我 呸

  10. 对啊,Umesh,完全同意你的说法。可是,中国也是在同印度一样或者更差的条件下起步、成长並达到他们今天的地步…印度制造有很多障碍和挑战,但是,我们需要起步,对吧?我对这个 ‘自由251’吃不准,但对其它新创企业,我们应该宣扬,我们该看着’印度制造’ 买,而不是中国制造,即便收费稍微高点
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    [哈哈]是的,中国是在很差的条件下起步,但不是跟印度一起起步!中国的成长起步是世界独一无二的!可能也是利用人口红利在世界崛起最后的一波!以后也不会有那个国家用人口红利来成功发展国家!因为世界时代以变,这时代是自动工业加创新加配套工程,中国正在向其过渡!试想一条自动流水线下来的产品其速度和产能哪个用人力来对抗?现在大宗商品走向机械化是必然的,印度你可能用你的人力来对抗流水线?不能吧!所以用人力在来发展国家以后是不可能的了!美国,日本虽然在科技方面领先但在制造方面绝无可能领先中国,因为他们早已失去制造市场的份额和资源!,就是制造出来也卖不掉,没有市场资源卖给谁去!所以印度可以用人口红利制造些手工工艺品,和劳力输出,但但劳动力输出也的靠技术!除非扛麻袋,扛麻袋还真不缺人,哈哈哈哈![嘻嘻]

  11. ramakrishna
    china devaluates their currency so much and no one cares or questions them chinese ripoff every other country the trade with because the devaluate the currency so much we must declare a zone in india where our currency is also devaluated so much to match chinese dirty tactics

    中国贬值他们的货币那么多却沒人在意或质询。中国人通过贸易大斩所有国家,因为货币贬值那么多;我们必须在印度搞个特区,在那儿我们的货币也贬值那么多,与中国的肮脏手段对抗
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    这智商!够爽!伙计,我举双手双脚支持你这么搞。中国肯定不是对手的。说好了啊?!你不贬值你不是人是黑鬼行不?!

  12. 不到30元的手机简直是骗小孩的笑话,很明显这只是厂家恶意的广告而已。从手机的主板,处理器,1G内存,到8G存储空间,到屏幕,到组装,甚至连外面触摸屏的总成,哪个环节会低于30元以下?不过厂家可能会赔本卖一些只当是作为品牌宣传的费用,提高知名度而已。

  13. Simple.
    Prison labor, piling 10 people in a 10×12 room, working them 16 hours a day, human rights abuse, child labor and no labor unioin makes Chinese manufacturing cheap.
    Question is, does India want to follow the salve model?
    Tuli needs to wake up and face realities. May be he should read Michael Porter’s Competitive Advantage and get familair with the Five Forces Model; and old framework but still applies to a global competitive market.

    简单啊。囚犯劳工,10×12的屋子塞10个人,让他们一天干16小时,侵犯认全、童工以及没有劳动工会使得中国制造便宜。

    问题是,印度想要跟着走这个奴隶模式吗?…
    不是第一次遇到这种xx,我现在都懒得喷了。。。