Indonesia toaward fast train contract to China
JAKARTA—Indonesia will award a hotly contested, multi-billion-dollar railway projectto China, a Japanese embassy official said on Tuesday, citing remarks by anIndonesian minister.
The two Asiangiants had been vying for the project to build a rail line linking theIndonesian capital, Jakarta, with the textile hub of Bandung.
shinsaku.aiSEP.29, 2015 - 09:21PM JST
Japan lost thisfair and square. Hopefully the Indonesian people gained. No more burying thetrain evidence like at Wnzhou!
kwattSEP. 29,2015 - 09:47PM JST
It seems thatChina pressured Indonesian government about bullet train. Indonesia wantedsafer train and better system of Japan first but it couldn't stop refusingdemand of China.
toshikoSEP. 29,2015 - 11:22PM JST
Expect moreChinese Train will have contracts in USA There will be Chinese train linebetween So Calif and Las Vegas. Chinese bullet train line State of NV revealed.recently.
5SpeedRacer5SEP.30, 2015 - 12:51AM JST
Whenever I hearabout Japan falling all over itself to get high speed train contracts, I thinkabout the countries in which the projects are to be built. Can they manage theinfrastructure? Can they build structures reliably so that they won't falldown? Is life cheap, or is safety first? Can operators follow directionsreliably? Can operators be chosen by merit rather than nepotism or otherconnections?
And time aftertime, I resign myself to the fact that Japan should probably not be takingultimate responsibility for building these systems in countries that haveproven that they can't handle them. What China can provide and what Indonesiaseems to want are an excellent match. Japan can find better partners, probably.And if not, at least they can avoid having to clean up someone else's mess.
ringman2 SEP.30, 2015 - 01:58AM JST
Some JT postershad previously made derogatory comments about Chinese products and servicesbeing "crap" ( you know who you are).
But nobody wouldbuy millions and billions worth of crappy products, especially for safe publicuse. Which means Chinese products and services are not the stereotypical crappycopycat nonsense, but are fast becoming cutting edge top value reliable brands,as more and more nations (USA and Europe too) are choosing Chinese products andservices over less-innovative and financially burdensome Japanese ones...
... whileenvious Japan can only watch its own fate sinking and losing to China in everysector and way each day by many times over.
Japan shouldknow by now it can never win again over China , and Abe/Jpn people'sbadmouthing and looking down on China shows how immature and how trapped andmired Japan is in its own shaken speriority complex. Japan can't never win backits own position because its grave miscalculations are its anti-Chineseinfantile mentality and its inability to face its so many shortcomings/historyand its xenophobia, not to mention Jpn people have no hunger and no motivationand no innovation at all. Japan is becoming a zombie nation, with less and lessinnovation and ambitions each day...
PTownsendSEP.30, 2015 - 08:04AM JST
The variousJapanese gerontocracies have to look in the mirror and notice that they areleading their country further and faster downhill. But they won't and probablycan't. They're stuck in the Japanese way.
Gerontocraciesare most concerned about their own survival, and individuals within are mostconcerned about maintaining their positions and pensions.
China hasfinland-ized huge areas in the Indian and Pacific Ocean spheres. China hasreinvented itself from a backward state and become a modern state. It has spentthe last couple of decades planning its economic actions and buildinginfrastructure. Like it or not.
Japan'sgerontocracies have kept things in the bubble years. But the bureaucrats withinhave kept their pensions.
Moon1SEP. 30,2015 - 09:27AM JST
what a load oftosh
Don't getconfused between quality and price. China makes garbage but its cheap andthat's why people buy it. China can sell cheap stuff because it controls itsown exchange rate. If it hadn't been for Lehmans in 2008 that destroyed theexchange rates for Japan and other countries then China would have never hadthis chance I think.
For Indonesia tochoose China over Japan says nothing about Chinas skill in high speed railwaysbut says more about people wanting cheap over quality (and perhaps as wtfjapansays, a little incentive from the China side)
More fool them.
OssanAmericaSEP.30, 2015 - 10:17AM JST
Buying a Chinesemade consumer product is one thing, But a mass transit system where an accidentcould result in hundreds of casualties is something else. In some countriesthat would be a very big deal, in other countries not so much.