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中国研究人员“编辑”人类胚胎,困惑的科学家们随后敦促暂停

2015-05-02 12:21 118个评论 字号:

全球科学家重新呼吁停止有争议的人类胎儿基因编辑研究。之前,中国一个小组发表了这个科学新前沿的突破性尝试细节。《自然新闻》首次报道了一家不出名在线杂志上出现的一篇论文,作者为广州中山大学基因功能研究人员黄军就及其同事,杂志名叫《蛋白质与细胞》。论文中,研究人员描述了他们如何改变胚胎的基因组,胚胎均来自一家辅助生育医疗机构。这些胚胎不能导致生命出生,因为他们由两枚精子授精,多了一套染色体。

译者:ken
来源:三泰虎论坛 http://www.santaihu.cn/thread-10015-1-1.html
外文:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Bewildered- scientists-urge-moratorium-after-Chinese-researchers-edit-human-embryos/articleshow/47041052.cms

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Bewildered scientists urge moratorium after Chinese researchers ‘edit’ human embryos

中国研究人员’编辑’人类胚胎,困惑的科学家们随后敦促暂停

MIAMI: Global scientists renewed calls to halt controversial research to genetically edit human embryos after a Chinese team published details of a breakthrough attempt in this new frontier in science.

迈阿密:全球科学家重新呼吁停止有争议的人类胎儿基因编辑研究。之前,中国一个小组发表了这个科学新前沿的突破性尝试细节。

First reported by Nature News on Wednesday, the paper by Junjiu Huang, a gene-function researcher at Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, and colleagues appears in a little known online journal called Protein and Cell.

星期三,《自然新闻》首次报道了一家不出名在线杂志上出现的一篇论文,作者为广州中山大学基因功能研究人员黄军就及其同事,杂志名叫《蛋白质与细胞》。

In the paper researchers describe how they changed the genomes of embryos obtained from a fertility clinic.

论文中,研究人员描述了他们如何改变胚胎的基因组,胚胎均来自一家辅助生育医疗机构。

The embryos could not have resulted in a live birth because they had an extra set of chromosomes after being fertilized by two sperm.

这些胚胎不能导致生命出生,因为他们由两枚精子授精,多了一套染色体。

Researchers “attempted to modify the gene responsible for beta-thalassemia, a potentially fatal blood disorder, using a gene-editing technique known as CRISPR/Cas9,” said the report in Nature News.

研究人员“尝试利用一种叫做CRISPR/Cas9的基因编辑技术,来修改导致地中海贫血症的基因,一种潜在致命血液病,”《自然新闻》报道说。

The researchers injected 86 embryos and waited 48 hours for the molecules that replace the missing DNA to act.

这些研究人员注射了86个胚胎,然后等待了48小时 – 等待那些替代缺失DNA的分子起作用。

Seventy-one embryos survived, and 54 of those were tested. Researchers found that of those only 28 were “successfully spliced, and that only a fraction of those contained the replacement genetic material,” said the report.

报道说,71个胚胎存活下来,它们中54个做了测试。研究人员发现,其中只有28个“拼接成功,而拼接成功的只有极少数含有替代基因物质” 。

“If you want to do it in normal embryos, you need to be close to 100 percent,” Huang was quoted as saying.

引用黄的话说,“如果想对正常胚胎这么做,需要接近100%的比例。”

“That’s why we stopped. We still think it’s too immature.”

“这就是我们停止的原因。我们认为这还太不成熟。”

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以下为《印度时报》读者的评论:

Aam Aadmi•India•
Some Chinese are really revolting. They can skin live dogs and cats and eat them alive while the animals are writhing in pain. They can fry living snakes, lizards, rats and even worms. Therefore there is little wonder that they can also needle live human embryos. From the way this research is going on, it appears that present Chinese leadership seems to resonate with such thinking. It is frightening to think what such leaders can do to China and to other nations, if they are allowed to become more powerful.

有些中国人真恶心。他们能活剝猫狗、生吃那些在痛苦中抽动的动物。他们会活煎蛇蜥、老鼠甚至蚯蚓。因此不奇怪,他们也会针刺活人胚胎。从这研究进行的方式来看,现在中国领导似乎与这种思维共鸣。如果允许他们变得更为强大,想想这种领导人会对中国和其它国家干什么就让人害怕。

Jahangir Chauhan•回 Aam Aadmi
Your hatred for China is apparent and amusing ay the same time.

你对中国的仇视显而易见,同时也很搞笑。

MarG G Meri•回 Jahangir Chauhan•Mumbai•
Oh don’t worry, they are just opening up their offsprings eyelids better, that’s about it.

啊,别担心,他们只是把下一代的眼皮睁得好些,也就是这样了。

Askmore•回 MarG G Meri•Delhi•
Perhaps Indians can borrow the idea later on to clear up their armpits!

也许印度人能借此想法,弄干净自己的腋窝!

Word Of Mouth•回 Aam Aadmi•
You should really rename yourself are Filthy aadmi because all your comment is showing me is that you are hopelessly racist and then if someone still proves that they are better than you, you will get back to them with in a manner which is not even civilized. Chinese do not eat Dogs… Koreans do for your information because it seems you do not even know these facts accurately and still love to show off your ignorance on the internet. Is this how your mother brought you up?

你真该自己改名为“龌龊aadmi”,因为你所有的话向我表明你就是个没指望的种族主义分子,並且然后要是有人还证明他们比你强,你会用甚至不文明的方式去回他们。中国人不吃狗… 南韩人吃,供你参考,因为看起来你甚至不知道确切事实,还爱在网上卖弄无知。你娘是这样把你带大的吗?

Jahangir Chauhan• 回 Word Of Mouth•Cochin•
Koreans used to eat dogs but not,anymore, Chinese never ate dogs, the other guy simply does lack basic knowledge.Chinese are way better and smarter then us we need to accept this fact, even if it us cruel for some

南韩人从前吃狗,但不再吃了,中国人从来不吃狗,那另一个家伙根本缺乏基本知识。中国人远比我们强、比我们聪明,我们需要接受这个事实,哪怕这对有些人是残酷的

Rajender• 回 Jahangir Chauhan•Unknown
Dog meat (Chinese: 狗肉; pinyin: gǒu ròu) has been a source of food in some areas of China from around 500 BC..

狗肉(中文:狗肉; pinyin: gǒu ròu)从大约公元前500来一直就是中国一些地区的一种食物来源…

subodh• 回 Jahangir Chauhan•New Delhi•
you useless brain who said chinese dont eat dog ? Dog meat very much consumed in China, Korea, Vietnam and in Switzerland. and the first country who consume in quantity of dog meat is China. so go some search and then post anything u brainless creature. and for your knowledge they dog meat used now in these countries are more than past.

你不中用的脑子说中国人不吃狗?狗肉在中国、朝鲜(韩国)、越南和瑞典大量消费。而且大量消费狗肉的第一位国家就是中国。所以,贴发任何东西前做些研究,你这没脑子的动物。而且,让你知道,现在这些国家用的狗肉比以前更多。

indian•回 subodh•india•
Within India, Nagaland leads in dog eating. People refuse to take pet dogs outside for fear of loosing to fond dog meat eaters. Their next favorite is mknkey.

印度国内,纳加兰邦吃狗肉领先。人们不愿带宠物狗外出,怕落到爱吃狗肉人的手里。

Sunny 回 indian •Unknown•
monkey meat gave aids and ebola virus,

猴肉给人爱滋、埃博拉病毒,

Shakti OM•回 Jahangir Chauhan•KAILASH•
you put yourself so low bro—-look at Indians who won Noble price; Chandrasekhara Venkata Raman, Har Govind Khorana, Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar and Venkatraman Ramakrishnan and Ronald Ross–They started winning in 1902 and the Chinese only in 1956–Even now no Chess Champion from China and no mathematical genius like Srinivasan Ramanujam–Go and study your history book bro—Did we not beat the Chinese in successfully launching a spacecraft to Mar—Go back to school bro!!

你把自己放得太低了,兄弟 — 看看得诺贝尔奖的印度人:Chandrasekhara Venkata Raman、Har Govind Khorana,、Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar 以及Venkatraman Ramakrishnan 和 Ronald Ross。他们从1902年开始得奖,而中国人只在1956年 – 即使现在也没中国人得国际象棋冠军,也沒有象Srinivasan Ramanujam那样的数学天才 – 去研究你的历史书吧,兄弟 – 我们成功发射飞船去火星,沒有击败中国人吗 – 学校回笼去吧,兄弟!

Askmore•回 Shakti OM•Delhi•
So, this is a challenge to pull up data- isnt it? Should we start? This is the classic false pride that Indians are a victim of.

那么,这是个拉数据的挑战,是吗?我们要开始吗?这是典型的虚荣,印度人是其受害者。

Aam Aadmi•回 Word Of Mouth•India•
It seems that you have not bothered to check your facts and gone by the word of mouth. Chinese have been consuming dog meat for thousands of years. You need not go into the details; just refer to the Wikipedia. Please notice that I still used the words ‘some’ Chinese which underscores the fact there is no racial bias. And as far as your other remarks go, they reflect who you are. God bless you.

看来你没有麻烦自己去查查事实就顺口瞎说。中国人消费狗肉几千年了;你不用细查,参见维基百科就行。请注意我还用了“有些”中国人这种说法,这杠出了没有种族偏见。而且你其它跑得那么远的话,反映出了你是什么东西。上帝保佑吧。

Jahangir Chauhan•回 Aam Aadmi•Cochin•
Your knowledge of histoey is not right who ever wrote that in histoey were Western historian who wrote such things against Chinese and civilization due to vuasedness and hated but if you pick lot of local Chinese historian and even unbiased western historian in middle ages rejected claim totally.

你的历史知识不正确。写那些历史的人只是西方历史学家,出于偏见和仇恨,他们写了这种东西来反中国人、反文明;但你如果看大量本地中国历史学家,连不带偏见的中世纪西方历史学家也彻底驳斥了那种说法。

Sand Piper• 回 Aam Aadmi•Unknown•
Food means different things to different people. Stop criticising what people eat or don’t eat. You can have your own perception of your food. Good luck.

对不同的人,食物意味着不同的东西。别批人家吃什么、不吃什么了。你可以有自己对自己食物的感受。好运吧。

Logical JAAT•Word Of Mouth•Haryana•
truthb is bitter some time .. cant call any one telling u the truth racist

事实有时是苦涩的…不能把告诉你真相的人都叫做种族主义分子

ANTI CORRUPTION• 回 Aam Aadmi•
This clearly shows how much the Chinese universities have progressed in technology….What are our White Elephant institutes doing? Are these guys busy Campaigning for AAP party?

这清楚表明中国大学在科技上有了多大进步…我们的“白象”学院在干啥?这些人在忙着为平民党搞宣传吗?

Jahangir Chauhan• 回 ANTI CORRUPTION•Cochin•
They are usually and in majority either bust in watching p0rn or playing lazy bums watching TV(idiot box).

他们一般大多数不是在看黄片就是看电视(白痴盒),屁股都懒得挪。

baburajendran• 回 Aam Aadmi•Chennai•
Mr:Aam Aadmi, you’re off the mark as for as this topic of editing human embryos is concerned. What have Chinese eating habits to do with the research in molecular biology and biotechnology? The Chinese scientists themselves openly admit that their experiment is not 100 percent foolproof. Had they wanted to misuse the research,they could have remained secretive. Personally,like you, I don’t like Chinese,but it is a different topic.

Aam Aadmi先生,就这个编辑人类胚胎话题来说,你跑偏了。中国人饮食习惯跟这个分子生物学和生物技术研究有什么关系?这些中国科学家自己公开承认,他们的实验並非100%保险。要是他们想滥用这个研究,他们会保守秘密。就我个人来说,跟你一样,不喜欢中国人,但这是个不同的话题。

philip• 回 Aam Aadmi•UAE•
A.Aadmi, Chinese are much smarter than Indians. You should appreciate their invention. I have travelled length and breadth of china. Their achievements are superb comparing to Indias. Some of their local airports are much Bigger than IGI Delhi airport. Go and see their high speed trains when the train runs we can’t hear any noise superb. It is almost like the German ICE. Instead of making racist comments spend some money and travel around the world and get some experience

A.Aadmi,中国人比印度人聪明多了。你该承认他们的发明。我在中国做过长期、广泛的旅游。与印度比较,他们的成就杰出。他们有些本土机场都比英迪拉甘地德里机场大得多。去看看他们的高速铁路,火车开起来我们听不到一点噪音,棒及了。那几乎就象德国的城际特快(译注:德国高铁)。不要制造种族主义评论,而是要花些钱去周游世界,长些经历

Anand Drivedi• 回 Aam Aadmi•Mumbai•
This is old news.
Maharishi Bharadwaj and ancient Rishis had already edited human embryos and changed the genomes during Vedic times as per RSS/BJP.
India had more advanced genetic researchers during Vedic times.
Jai Hind.

那是旧闻啦。按RSS/人民党的说法,Maharishi Bharadwaj 和古代的Rishis已经编辑了人类胚胎、改变了基因组。印度在吠陀时代就有了更领先的基因研究人员。印度胜利。

Felis leo• 回 Anand Drivedi•Location•
What you say = the green stuff coming out of the cow’s posterior hole.

你说的话=奶牛最后面那个孔里出来的绿团团。

Sunny 回 Anand Drivedi•Unknown•
drivedi ji you are not fooling anyone.

drivedi 姬,你不是在玩弄人吧。

Anand Drivedi• 回 Sunny SS•Mumbai•
Ha, Ha, Haaaaaaaaa……….you are so funny!!!

哈哈哈…你这么搞笑!!!

soarhigh• 回 Anand Drivedi•Mumbai•
Very true, And you are the result of such an editing gone wrong ? 🙂

很真实,而你就是这种编辑出错的产物?

Pug Pug• 回 Anand Drivedi•Unknown•
Height of idioticity. Are you haling form Gujarat?

白痴的制高点。你是古贾拉特人?

Anand Drivedi• 回 Sunny SS•Mumbai•
No exceptions, according to Charles Darwin and evolution, all humans evolved from Apes in Africa……..including the RSS chaddiwallas, MPs in Parliament and King Feku too!!

Oh yes, Apes are vegetarian. So I support the beef ban!!

Jai Hind!

沒有例外,根据达尔文进化论,所有人类都由非洲猿人进化而来…也包括议会议员和牛皮大王!!噢,对了,猿人是素食者。因此我支持禁止牛肉!!

Ramesh Purohit• 回 Anand Drivedi•India•
Thank you for enlightening us Maharshi Drivedi. Now when will you stop writing such drivel?

圣人Drivedi,多谢赐教。那么什么时候你会停写这种胡绉?

Anand Drivedi• 回 Ramesh Purohit•Mumbai•
Wait, wait…..I am flying on Maharishi Bharadwaj’s pushpak bimana………I am in the air right now. I will reply when I land on earth.

等等,等等…我在开圣人Bharadwaj的飞行宮殿…我正在天上。我着地后会回你。

 

Tarzan • Canada•
When the WEST invented Fire Arms, Bombs no one said NOTHING, and they brought death of millions.
When the WEST invented NUCLEAR BOMBS, which erased human culture and created havoc no one said NOTHING.
Now that China is in to inventing new thing in stem cell research AHEAD of the WEST they cry and use force to STOP. Off-course it is unethical but who started it in the first place? It is just JEALOUSY and HYPOCRISY!
Always WEST wants to lead the WORLD to DESTRUCTION!

西方发明火器、炸弹时沒人啃声,而这些带来百万计的死亡;西方发明了核弹,它抹去人类文明、制造浩劫,没人啃声;现在中国领先西方,在干细胞研究中发明新东西,他们叫嚷並用武力制止。当然这不道德,可谁先起的头?这只是妒忌和虚伪!西方总是想领着世界走向毁灭!

ENN DEE•Tarzan •Unknown•
This is different, playing with nature to that extent can lead to many disasters. And by the way Gun powder that made the basis of early Bombs and firearms was not west but Chinese invention

这个不同,摆弄自然界到了这种程度会导致许多灾难。顺便说下作为早期炸弹和火器基础的火药不是西方,而是中国人发明的

Coward Patel•回 Tarzan •Location•
Chinese did NOT stem cell research, they are just copying the techniques that are developed in Salk Laboratores. Chinks are useless to the human race!!

中国人没有领先干细胞研究,他们只是抄Salk 实验室研发的技术。中国佬对对人类毫无用处!!

joykutty cherian• 回 Tarzan •Location•
But Chinese style of experimentation would be highly disastrous. Americans and Europeans almost foresee the results. But Chinese, I think they just go for wild experimentation, the consequences of which will be felt only in case of an eventuality. Plus, I feel, Chinese are most unreliable society in the world. Any now, be it West or China, playing with humanity would be disastrous…

但是中国人的实验方式或许是高度灾难性的。美国和欧洲几乎预料到了结果。可是中国人,我认为他们只是去胡乱实验,其影响只有当万一出后果才能感觉到。再加上,我觉得中国人是世界上最不可靠的社会。不管怎么说,西方还是中国,摆弄人类会是灾难性的…

km_bridge• 回 Tarzan •Washington DC•
It’s not Chinese invention, you idiot! Go get an advanced degree f$cking moron. It’s called the CRISPR technology invented by the Americans in the U.S. The Chinese used the technique to edit the genes, and ended in failure. Why do you guys like you even bother to talk when you have zero education in advanced science? Go do your labor intensive IT job and be happy with your boring, coding life.

这不是中国人的发明,你们这些白痴!去得个高学位,草泥马笨蛋。这叫做CRISPR技术,美国的美国人发明的。中国人用这技术编辑基因,以失败告终。你们没受一点高科技教育,为什么象你们这种家伙还不怕麻烦来讲这个?去干你们劳动密集型的IT工作吧,开开兴兴过你们那无聊的填码生活。

 

Sultan of Swing• 回 Sandhya Manjhi•USA•
Needs to be stopped. The last gene mutation and we had Pappu and the whole country is suffering!!!

需要制止。上次基因突变我们有了蠢货(译注:Pappu ,印度常用名,也可用作贬意:愚蠢的人),整个国家因此遭䄃!!!

 

Pansy•
Imagine this research news coming out of an indian lab- i can hear and see everyone patting themselves. If it is Chinese, NO way!

想象一下这研究新闻出自一个印度实验室 – 我能听到、看到人人都在拍手拍脚。如果是中国人,没门!



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