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32年了,印度空军终于要拿到光辉战机了

2014-12-20 15:04 120个评论 字号:

三泰虎12月20日译文,轻型战斗机项目获批32年后,印度空军终于将在2015年3月拿到首架国产光辉战机。但是在倒香槟之前,思考一下:这款多用途战机准备在全天候条件下执行,但是还发射不了远程导弹,以及无法通过空中加油来将打击范围扩大一倍。首架光辉战机会以初始作战许可的配置在班加罗尔交付给印度空军,这意味着基本适合飞行了。但是该战机的最终作战许可再次被拖延了,最终作战许可意味着该战机集成了各种武器,比如机炮、激光制导zha弹、超视距导弹以及具备空中加油能力。

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
外文标题:32 years on, IAF to get Tejas fighters in March
外文地址:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/32-years-on-IAF-to-get-Tejas-fighters-in-March/articleshow/45580160.cms

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NEW DELHI: Thirty-two years after the light combat aircraft (LCA) project was sanctioned, IAF will finally get its first home-grown Tejas fighter in March 2015. But before you pop the bubbly, consider this: the multi-role jet is now ready to fly in all-weather conditions but cannot yet fire long-range missiles as well as undergo mid-air refuelling to double its strike range.

轻型战斗机项目获批32年后,印度空军终于将在2015年3月拿到首架国产光辉战机。但是在倒香槟之前,思考一下:这款多用途战机准备在全天候条件下执行,但是还发射不了远程导弹,以及无法通过空中加油来将打击范围扩大一倍。

The first Tejas will be delivered to IAF at Bangalore in its initial operational clearance (IOC) configuration, which basically means it’s fully airworthy now. But the fighter’s final operational clearance (FOC) to make it combat-ready — with integration of all weapons like guns, laser-guided bombs and BVR (beyond visual range) missiles as well capable of air-to-air refuelling — has once again been delayed.

首架光辉战机会以初始作战许可的配置在班加罗尔交付给印度空军,这意味着基本适合飞行了。但是该战机的最终作战许可再次被拖延了,最终作战许可意味着该战机集成了各种武器,比如机炮、激光制导zha弹、超视距导弹以及具备空中加油能力。

The Tejas Mark-II, the fighter IAF really wants with more powerful engines for greater thrust and drag reduction, will start to come only by 2021-2022. With the first preliminary design review for the Mark-II version now over, the plan is to fly its first prototype by 2017 or so.

印度空军真正需要的是搭载更强劲引擎的Tejas Mark-II,该战机到2021-2022才会服役。随着Tejas Mark-II的初始设计结束,该计划目前是到2017年左右飞首架原型机。

“The first of IOC standard aircraft has been built and successfully completed its maiden flight on September 30 this year. This aircraft will be handed over to IAF by March 2015 after some upgrades,” defence minister Manohar Parrikar told Lok Sabha on Friday.

“首架初始作战许可的光辉战机已经建造,并在今年9月30日成功完成了首飞。该飞机将于2015年3月移交给印度空军进行一些升级。”国防部长Manohar Parrikar周五在人民院说道。

以下是《印度时报》读者的评论:

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com/2014122005.html

rajat lahiry (Navi Mumbai)
Defence must be opened to private sector like US.

跟美国一样,印度国防产业应该向私营部门开放。

 

rajat lahiry (Navi Mumbai)
Defence minister Manohar Parrikar should reorganise DRDO – this organisation has failed the nation badly. PM had already suggested to regroup DRDO –

国防部长Manohar Parrikar应该重组印度国防研究与发展组织(DRDO),该组织让国家失望透了。总理已经建议重组DRDO

 

Ravie (Chandigarh)
now every thing getting speed up after new government in place.

新政府就绪后,一切得以提速了。

 

darshan003darshan003 ()
Good News. We should be proud of this initial achievement

好消息,我们应该为这一初步成就感到自豪。

 

Vinay Desai ()
It is high time we should have our own engines.

我们早就该有国产发动机了

 

Dhruv Jyoti (Mumbai (Bombay), India)
How fast our defence acquisition system is ! Wonderful,marvelous ……waah waaah…. The operational life of MIG(flying cofin) is increased and pilots who fly these will pay price of their lives

我们的国防采购系统运转真快速啊!哇!米格飞行棺材的使用期限延长了,驾驶这些战机的飞行员将会付出生命代价。

 

Arrowhead (Omnipresent!)
China is developing its 5th generation fighter plane while India still struggles with its development of its 4th generation fighter plane. Too many old scientists around who drink tea and take too many naps.

中国正在研发第五代战机,而印度仍然在4代机的研发中挣扎。太多老科学家把时间花在喝茶和小憩上。

darshan003darshan003 () replies to Arrowhead
China is doing nothing but the reverse engineering of the planes or other items it bought from Russia or any other country and then build their own weapons with that design. At least India is doing fine with its own design. Once they build this 4th generation, Our scientists will not take more time to build 5th or 6th generation planes.

中国啥也没做,无非是对从俄罗斯或其他国家采购来的武器进行逆向工程而已,然后照着设计造出自己的武器。至少印度自主设计的效果不错。一旦造出了4代机,我们科学家不消功夫就能造出5代机和6代机。

 

Arrowhead (Omnipresent!)
Get rid of HAL and the DRDO! These government institutions are lumbering behemoths that are just too slow in developing vital weapons to specification and on time! Bring in the private sector! The private sector will do in one year what these behemoths do in ten years.

放弃印度斯坦航空公司和印度国防研究与发展组织!这些政府机构是笨拙的庞然大物,速度太慢,无法按时完成重要武器的研发!让私营部门来吧!这些庞然大物需要10年来完成的,私营部门只要一年就够。

 

ramnik ()
why our scientists and engineers who have completed their whole career in building this aircraft not been able to deliver. even today the main components are imported. are these guys so in competent. govt must make these people accountable and disciplinary action must be taken against them for having wasted country’s resources and time. all the sarkari babus must come out of this chalega type approach.

为什么我们的科学家和工程师一辈子投身该飞机的研发,却未能交付出成果。至今主要零件还是进口的。难道这些家伙无能吗?政府必须让这些家伙接受问责,就浪费国家资源和时间对他们进行纪律处分。

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    • aksharma (Noida)
      Thirty two years should qualify for a Guinness world record?
      32年了,应该可以申请吉尼斯世界记录了
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      不怕的还有世界最昂贵的阿囧呢,看好你们哦

  1. darshan003darshan003 () replies to Arrowhead
    China is doing nothing but the reverse engineering of the planes or other items it bought from Russia or any other country and then build their own weapons with that design. At least India is doing fine with its own design. Once they build this 4th generation, Our scientists will not take more time to build 5th or 6th generation planes.

    中国啥也没做,无非是对从俄罗斯或其他国家采购来的武器进行逆向工程而已,然后照着设计造出自己的武器。至少印度自主设计的效果不错。一旦造出了4代机,我们科学家不消功夫就能造出5代机和6代机。
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    aksharma (Noida)
    Thirty two years should qualify for a Guinness world record?

    32年了,应该可以申请吉尼斯世界记录了
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    连部分三哥都看出来了,这是要刷新自己记录的节奏啊! [哈哈]

  2. 32年了!多少黑发等成白发,三哥的三代机终于上天了,加油三哥!你行的,不过。。貌似三哥这三代机的作用不大啊!我建议三哥还是多造摩托车,以三哥的能力1万辆摩托能运送10万兵力,用优势兵力压制我天朝大军好吗?

  3. Arrowhead (Omnipresent!)
    China is developing its 5th generation fighter plane while India still struggles with its development of its 4th generation fighter plane. Too many old scientists around who drink tea and take too many naps.

    中国正在研发第五代战机,而印度仍然在4代机的研发中挣扎。太多老科学家把时间花在喝茶和小憩上。

    darshan003darshan003 () replies to Arrowhead
    China is doing nothing but the reverse engineering of the planes or other items it bought from Russia or any other country and then build their own weapons with that design. At least India is doing fine with its own design. Once they build this 4th generation, Our scientists will not take more time to build 5th or 6th generation planes.

    中国啥也没做,无非是对从俄罗斯或其他国家采购来的武器进行逆向工程而已,然后照着设计造出自己的武器。至少印度自主设计的效果不错。一旦造出了4代机,我们科学家不消功夫就能造出5代机和6代机。

    还造个毛线的5代机啊?偶们已经成功移民火星了..
    歼星舰才是偶们的最终目标..
    最新消息..
    偶们的铁疙瘩火箭重量已经超过眯眯眼了.. [鼓掌]
    颤抖吧愚蠢的人类们。乃们都要跪在偶们的黑脚丫巴下..
    淫度屎滩必胜.. [挖鼻屎]

  4. darshan003darshan003 () replies to Arrowhead
    China is doing nothing but the reverse engineering of the planes or other items it bought from Russia or any other country and then build their own weapons with that design. At least India is doing fine with its own design. Once they build this 4th generation, Our scientists will not take more time to build 5th or 6th generation planes.

    中国啥也没做,无非是对从俄罗斯或其他国家采购来的武器进行逆向工程而已,然后照着设计造出自己的武器。至少印度自主设计的效果不错。一旦造出了4代机,我们科学家不消功夫就能造出5代机和6代机。
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    一点国情不去了解,就在那高潮,··············希望保持。

  5. darshan003darshan003 () replies to Arrowhead
    China is doing nothing but the reverse engineering of the planes or other items it bought from Russia or any other country and then build their own weapons with that design. At least India is doing fine with its own design. Once they build this 4th generation, Our scientists will not take more time to build 5th or 6th generation planes.

    中国啥也没做,无非是对从俄罗斯或其他国家采购来的武器进行逆向工程而已,然后照着设计造出自己的武器。至少印度自主设计的效果不错。一旦造出了4代机,我们科学家不消功夫就能造出5代机和6代机。

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    阿三果然是嘴炮民族,真是张嘴就来,印度说自主我笑了,印度还有什么不是买的?这么容易逆向工程?全世界都把最好的武器卖给印度,但印度却什么也造不出来,可见逆向工程不是智商80能胜任的.

  6. 看这外型说它是二代机也不为过吧,连韩国的教练机都远远不如,倒是印度飞行员连进口的世界上最好的飞机都破记录地摔,现在这种垃圾飞行员再开这种破烂飞机上天,我只能说湿婆 bless you.

  7. 印度根本就缺乏完整的基础工业体系,某些东西根本连造都造不出,还代数?不然三十多年了,光辉为啥上不了天?阿琼为啥每次阅兵要用卡车拖着?
    而且印度人偏偏心比天高,每次别人一搞出什么新装备,自己马上把原来自己的项目推倒重来,狗熊掰棒子好歹是掰一个丢一个,三哥是一个没掰到就想去掰另一个,能搞出来才有鬼

  8. 一架很普通的“光辉”飞行器,这与俄罗斯、美国、中国能扯上什么关系?这个民族总喜欢张扬,跟这个比,跟那个比,深怕别人不知道??脑子里的咖哩糊多了吧。

  9. 中国啥也没做,无非是对从俄罗斯或其他国家采购来的武器进行逆向工程而已,然后照着设计造出自己的武器。至少印度自主设计的效果不错。一旦造出了4代机,我们科学家不消功夫就能造出5代机和6代机。 [兔子] 好、他说了别人不敢说的话。 [good] [抓狂]

    • 看了原汁原味的阿三的评论,难道还不满意,这样的阿三才能让我们安心的睡,不过睁半只眼吧。

  10. Dhruv Jyoti (Mumbai (Bombay), India)
    How fast our defence acquisition system is ! Wonderful,marvelous ……waah waaah…. The operational life of MIG(flying cofin) is increased and pilots who fly these will pay price of their lives

    我们的国防采购系统运转真快速啊!哇!米格飞行棺材的使用期限延长了,驾驶这些战机的飞行员将会付出生命代价。

    我们的国防采购系统运转真快速啊!。。。这个三哥还哇了一声。。。第一次世界大战从1914年8月开始到二次世界大战1945年8月15日日本战败结束。。。共计31年。。。三哥设计一款战机才用了32年而已。。。嗯。。。 [鼓掌]

  11. Arrowhead (Omnipresent!)
    China is developing its 5th generation fighter plane while India still struggles with its development of its 4th generation fighter plane. Too many old scientists around who drink tea and take too many naps.

    中国正在研发第五代战机,而印度仍然在4代机的研发中挣扎。太多老科学家把时间花在喝茶和小憩上。

    自由和皿煮怎么体现。。。当我们还是被鞭子和刺刀逼着干活的奴隶吗。。。必须闲着,这是自由皿煮形式的集中体现。。。你这个笨蛋。。。 [鄙视] [右哼哼]

    • 阿三的光辉展现非凡的自由,发动机向后喷,机头向下走,前翼向左,后翼向右,飞行员向上,,,

  12. abhi (Unknown)
    Tejas is delayed because no one in the world would want india to become self dependent in aircraft technology. First of all political and beurocats dont want that because it will hurt all their bribe that they get in huge deals. America, Russia, Israel doesnt want that because if india starts making their own planes and starts selling to other countries in cheap price, what will happen to theirs defence business. Same is the story is for DRDO. Foreign countries bribed our politicians and made sure india is always dependent on them.
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    光辉战机项目之所以被拖延了,是因为世界上没有人希望看到印度飞机技术独立自主。

    首先,印度政客和官僚不希望看到,因为这会影响他们从巨额订单中收受贿赂。

    美国、俄罗斯和以色列也不希望看到,因为印度要是自主生产飞机了,且低价向其他国家出售,那么会影响那些国家的生意。

    外国持续贿赂我们的政客,确保印度一直依赖他们。

    Ashok Prabhu (Location) replies to abhi
    You must be reading too many of the Detective and Spy books.

    你肯定看了太多的侦探书了

    就是。。。就是。。。那些都是幻觉。。。来杯恒河水定定神吧。。。 [嘻嘻] [酷]

  13. Brown American (USA)
    65% Indigenous Content. That is big achievement in the first fighter Aircraft.

    65%的零件国产化。对第一款战机来说是一个伟大的成就

    这65也是国内组装而已吧。。。 [挖鼻屎]

  14. 我还没出生,这款战机就在设计了,我不想留下遗憾,不要等我挂了之后这款战机还没能真正的服役啊!

  15. DK-Daybreak
    darshan003darshan003 () replies to Arrowhead
    China is doing nothing but the reverse engineering of the planes or other items it bought from Russia or any other country and then build their own weapons with that design. At least India is doing fine with its own design. Once they build this 4th generation, Our scientists will not take more time to build 5th or 6th generation planes.

    中国啥也没做,无非是对从俄罗斯或其他国家采购来的武器进行逆向工程而已,然后照着设计造出自己的武器。至少印度自主设计的效果不错。一旦造出了4代机,我们科学家不消功夫就能造出5代机和6代机
    ……………………………….
    等我吃完晚饭后,再用美术老师给我的素描本把美国的高科技武器全部临摹一遍,一旦能够画出F-22战斗机,我不消功夫就能造出F-35和X-47B然后就是高性能航空发动机。放心,都会有的,一切尽在掌握中

  16. 这架飞机即便在2020年后服役其战力也比枭龙差 先天的不足几乎可以导致没有办法进行质的改装 撑死了跟枭龙去斗一斗吧 即然是单发动机的就不要有这样的设计 因为这种设计是在高空高速下有优势的 但这种轻型飞机显然不会属于这种类型的 所以要着重的是低空 机动 能力 那么这种设计 几乎就是个渣