从这里了解印度人对中国的看法

为什么越南发展得比印度更好

2014-10-13 11:09 62个评论 字号:

三泰虎10月13日译文,网友esolve发帖讨论越南和印度,称,“两个国家几乎同时开始改革,但是越南目前领先印度。如果让我选择在其中一个国家工作的话,我肯定会选择越南,因为越南不仅干净安全,而且不会像印度那样乱糟糟。”印度网友Leonidas回复称,“虽然从未去过越南,不过我对越南颇为敬重,而我肯定这种感觉在印度同胞中是非常普遍的。如果他们领先我们,那我祝贺他们。不管他们取得多大成就,那是他们用努力换来的。”

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
外文标题:why does Vietnam develop better than India?
外文地址:http://defence.pk/threads/why-does-vietnam-develop-better-than-india.338467/

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esolve(中国)
These two countries started reforming in similar years
but Vietnam is ahead of India

If I want to travel or work in one of these two countries, I will definitely choose vietnam coz it is clean, safe and non-chaos like India

两个国家几乎同时开始改革,但是越南目前领先印度

如果让我选择在其中一个国家工作的话,我肯定会选择越南,因为越南不仅干净安全,而且不会像印度那样乱糟糟

以下是跟帖:

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com/2014101305.html

BoQ77(越南)
I want to travel to India. A little fear if I was a girl, but I’m not.

我想去印度旅行。如果我是女孩的话,我会有点担心,所幸我不是

mike2000(英国)
lool you wont be raped if thats what you mean. 😀

Dont worry, you can travel to India, its not that bad as you think bro. I have been there myself , its quite a nice place to visit. Nice landscape, religious sites, welcoming people,natural surroundings and amazing spicy food.:smitten: The only thing i didnt like was the gridlocks in roads, it was hard for me to get anywhere on time, plus too much beggars as well. But apart from that it was an amazing experience. You should try it, im sure you wont regret bro.

哈哈,如果是那样的话,你不会被强奸的 😀

别担心,你可以去印度旅行,没有你想象的那么糟糕,我就去过那里,是一个非常不错的观光地。

风景优美,宗教场所众多,人们热情好客,周围尽是自然美景,还有令人惊叹的辛辣食物

唯一让我不喜欢的是公路上的交通堵塞,我很难按时到达某地。而且街上太多乞丐了。

除此之外,印度之旅是一个不可思议的经历。你应该尝试一下,我确信你不会后悔的

 

Kolaps(台湾)
Vietnam safe for Chinese tourist???

I prefer India!

中国游客在越南安全吗?

我更喜欢去印度!

BoQ77(越南)
Did you hear any Chinese tourist was hurt in Vietnam?
LOL.

If I was Japanese, I would fear to be in China, more than a Chinese in Vietnam.
Chinese race is also a minority in Vietnam.

你有听说中国游客在越南受伤吗?

哈哈

如果我是日本人,我对去中国的畏惧程度,超过一位中国人去越南的畏惧程度

华人在越南也是一个少数民族

 

vietnamese_sausage(越南)
My unbiased comment. when china had good relations with vietnam there were trickled economic benefits to vietnam. now i don’t know if that will be the same in the future as relationship not as good as before. china start to become tougher for border villagers who want to go across china border to sell stuff than return at night. now they just close off or scrutinize more.

now Vietnamese merchants trying to find other sources to get raw materials and sell agri products. when vietnam sign TPP i hope it will benefit us.

以下是公正言论:

当中国与越南关系友好时,越南就能享受滴滴细流的经济益处。

不知道未来是否还会继续,两国关系已经不如以往了。

中国开始刁难越南边境村民了,后者希望白天越过边界进入中国卖东西,然后晚上回来。而中国现在直接给你关了,或者严加盘查。

如今,越南商人努力寻找其市场来把农产品卖出去。一旦签订TPP,我希望越南会受益

 

Leonidas(印度)
Although I’ve never been to Vietnam, I’m very respectful of it as a nation, a feat which I’m pretty sure very common among my Indian brethren.

If they are ahead of us, I congratulate them. Whatever they have achieved its because they have worked hard to be what they are today.

Possible reasons for why they have developed better,

a) Authoritarian Government – faster decisions, low rate of inclusion of a whole lot of people in decision making.

b) Investment in Infrastructure and Education – They have invested good in these key areas, it has given them an efficient workforce with able infrastructure to fully tap the enhanced skills of its human resource.

c) After-war effect – The war-torn country had to start rebuilding its economy from the scratch. When you hit rock bottom, there’s no other way left but upwards. Best examples, Japan-Germany.

d) Communism – Although Vietcong was supported by many in the South, the communist leadership of the newly united country still had to prove to many of its citizens who were in favour of Democracy that Communism can be equally good or can even perform better when it comes to economic growth.

虽然从未去过越南,不过我对越南颇为敬重,而我肯定这种感觉在印度同胞中是非常普遍的。

如果他们领先我们,那我祝贺他们。不管他们取得多大成就,那是他们用努力换来的。

以下是他们发展更好的可能原因:

1、专制政府 – 决策迅速、不会有很多人碍手碍脚

2、大力投资基础设施和教育 – 他们在这些关键领域的投资力度很大,铸就了高效率的劳动大军,充分挖掘了人力资源

3、战后效应 – 被战争摧毁的国家必须从废墟上重建经济。从头开始,就不会有选择其他道路的困惑,而是勇往直前。最好的例子是日本和德国

4、共产主义

mrfly911(越南)
Oh buddy, that Chinese guy is trying to create war between Indian and Vietnamese members here :nhl_checking:
Which source said that Vietnam went ahead India? :haha: Why don’t you use China here?
India is a big country. I knew that India has some issue but she could send a ship to Mar. That’s all

哦,哥们,中国人试图引燃本站印度会员和越南会员之间的战火

哪里说越南领先印度了?哈哈,为什么不说领先中国?

印度是一个大国。我明白印度饱受一些问题的困扰,但是她已经有能力向火星发射探测器了,这已经说明一切。

Nova2(印度)
neva gona happen bud, even if Vietnam is more developed than India, then we would acknowledge that fact,congratulate you guys and move on

如果越南比印度更发达,我们会承认这一事实的。祝贺你们,继续前进

vietnamese_sausage(越南)
don’t think Vietnamese are stupid. you know we will never surpass india in develpment. not even in one thousand years. don’t insult our intelligence by useless flattery

别以为越南人傻啊。我们的发展永远超不过印度,你懂的,就是一千年也超不过。别用恭维话来侮辱我们的智商

acid rain(印度)
In defense, he said “if”.

他是说“如果”

Nova2(印度)
Naah !…seriously ,Vietnam’s growth rate has been around ~6% or say 5.62% to be precise for 9months of 2014. whereas, India is growing at 5.7%(Q1-2014) ,both countries have equal growth rate, so definately a country with 92mill would develop faster and better than one wid 1200mill. Anways u guy are ahead of us on per capita statistics.hence i said u guys could be more developed than us. See,I wasn’t flattering anyone :angels:

说真的,越南经济增长速度大约是6%,或者精确的说,2014年前9个月的增长速度是5.62%,而印度2014年第一季度增长5.7%。两国的发展速度大体相当。一个人口9200万的国家肯定会比一个人口12亿的国家发展得更快。

总之,你们的人均数据领先我们。所以,我说你们可能比我们更发达。

瞧,我可没有恭维任何人

 

Viet(越南)
surpassing india is not something special, but surpassing china. well

超过印度没啥特别的,要超就要超过中国,那样才给力

 

NiceGuy(越南)
Yep, we dont need to poison our land-rivers, pollute our air badly to get food , but we still dont have any kids starving to death in Trash bin like in China

为了吃饭,我们没必要把土地和河流污染了,没必要把空气污染了。不过,我们仍然没有出现任何一个孩子饿死在垃圾箱里,而中国就不一样了。

vietnamese_sausage(越南)
True
How many kids died in Chinese trash bins?

正确

中国有多少孩子饿死在垃圾箱里?

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