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为抗衡印度Su-30MKI,中国可能升级其Su-30MKK战机雷达

2014-10-01 19:58 41个评论 字号:

印度防卫论坛:为抗衡印度Su-30MKI中国可能升级其Su-30MKK战机雷达。根据莫斯科军事杂志Parade报道,为了与印度苏霍伊公司的Su-30MKI战机抗衡,解放军空军可能会考虑将同为苏霍伊公司的Su-30MKK战斗机RLPK-27VE综合雷达瞄准系统,替换成更为先进的无源相控阵雷达。尽管中国通过逆向工程研制出了J-11B和J-15,表明自己有能力制造中国版俄式战机,但许多西方专家仍然质疑这些中国版战机的质量是否真的如俄罗斯原版一样,这就是尽管中国已经有能力设计第五代隐形战机,却仍然需要购买俄罗斯4.5代的Su-35S的原因。

译者:ngageboy
来源:http://www.santaihu.com/2014100108.html
原帖:http://indiandefence.com/threads/pla-may-upgrade-radar-of-its-su-30mkk-fighters-to-match-su-30mki-of-india.49635/

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PLA may upgrade radar of its Su-30MKK fighters to match Su-30MKI of India

To compete with India’s Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighters, the People’s Liberation Army Air Force may consider replacing the RLPK-27VE integrated radar targeting system of its Sukhoi Su-30MKK fighters with more advanced passive electronically scanned array radar, according to the Moscow-based Military Parade magazine.

Even though China has shown itself capable of building its own version of Russian fighters such as the J-11B and the J-15 through reverse engineering, many Western experts still question whether the quality of these Chinese fighters is really equal to the Russian originals. This is the reason why China still needs to purchase the Su-35S, Russia’s 4.5-generation, despite the fact that it is already capable of designing a fifth-generation stealth fighter.

China is currently still unable to design and produce engine and radar systems as advanced as Russia’s. India, one of China’s major rivals, has purchased a Su-30MKI with a passive electronically scanned array and gained a license from Russia to produce Saturn AL-31FP engines domestically. With the ability to track targets 200 kilometers away, the Indian Air Force’s Su-30MKI could easily overcome Chinese fighters in a potential conflict.

With only the RLPK-27VE integrated radar targeting system, China’s Su-30MKK cannot even fire the Russian-built KS-172 air-to-air missile, according to Kanwa Defense Review published by Andrei Chang also known as Pinkov, a military from Canada. This is the reason why China is considering installing passive electronically scanned array radar to upgrade its fighters. China has also developed its J-15 carrier-based fighters with AL-31FP engines, although the price of the fighter has gradually increased.

Source : Want China Times

为抗衡印度Su-30MKI中国可能升级其Su-30MKK战机雷达

根据莫斯科军事杂志Parade报道,为了与印度苏霍伊公司的Su-30MKI战机抗衡,解放军空军可能会考虑将同为苏霍伊公司的Su-30MKK战斗机RLPK-27VE综合雷达瞄准系统,替换成更为先进的无源相控阵雷达。

尽管中国通过逆向工程研制出了J-11B和J-15,表明自己有能力制造中国版俄式战机,但许多西方专家仍然质疑这些中国版战机的质量是否真的如俄罗斯原版一样,这就是尽管中国已经有能力设计第五代隐形战机,却仍然需要购买俄罗斯4.5代的Su-35S的原因。

中国目前仍无法设计和制造能媲美俄罗斯产的发动机和雷达系统。印度,中国的主要竞争对手之一,已经购买了配备无源相控阵雷达和获许本土化生产AL-31FP发动机的Su-30MKI。(译者吐槽:我怎么感觉目前中国只把美国作为主要战略对手,没有其他了呀)

在可能发生冲突中,拥有200公里距离追踪目标能力的印空军Su-30MKI可以轻而易举地解决掉中国战机。

根据加拿大汉和防务评论平可夫称,只具备RLPK-27VE综合雷达瞄准系统的中国Su-30MKK甚至不能发射俄制KS-172空空导弹。这就是中国正考虑安装无源相控阵雷达升级其战机的原因。另外虽然会导致价格大涨,中国也将(印度同款的)AL-31FP型发动机运用到了其J-15航母舰载机上。

以下为网友留言:

oh my goat !!

我的山羊
(译者:某手游,跳跃各种障碍)

 

Venureddy(印度)
where is our super sukhoi upgrade?

我们的超级苏霍伊升级(计划)在哪里?

Anish(印度)回复Venureddy(印度)
I think we need to wait 2 years for that. after Su-30mki production finishes then the super-su will enter production. Right now i expect we are in negotiation with russia over aesa and new engine price.

我觉得我们要等两年才行。等Su-30MKI生产完毕后,才能开始生产超级苏霍伊。现在我估计我们正在与俄罗斯就有源相控阵雷达和新发动机的价格谈判呢。

 

sam2012
But there were report of Chinese AESA in J-10B why a PESA into Su-30 mkk????
Why not chinese AESA for Su-30mkk???

但是有报道说J-10B正装备中国制有源相控阵雷达,为什么还给Su-30MKK装备无源相控阵雷达呢?
为什么不给Su-30MKK装备中国制有源相控阵雷达

sunny6611回复sam2012
no no no thats to advance for Su 30 mkk………. only for Gen 6 aircrafts

不不不,那不是给Su-30MKK准备的,是为第六代战机而准备的

m2monty(印度)回复sam2012
sir, which one gets more advantages SU-30MKI or SU-30MKK

老大,Su-30MKI和Su-30MKK哪个会更有优势。

sam2012回复m2monty(印度)
The head to head fight will decide because the Men in cockpit matters more than the Machine
Again MKI can be better than MKK vise a versa

面对面的战斗取决于驾驶舱里的人而非机器。

(印度)MKI型可以再次比(中国)MKK强大,反之亦然。

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  1. 但是有报道说J-10B正装备中国制有源相控阵雷达,为什么还给Su-30MKK装备无源相控阵雷达呢?为什么不给Su-30MKK装备中国制有源相控阵雷达  不不不,那不是给Su-30MKK准备的,是为第六代战机而准备的    老大,Su-30MKI和Su-30MKK哪个会更有优势。      面对面的战斗取决于驾驶舱里的人而非机器。      (印度)MKI型可以再次比(中国)MKK强大,反之亦然。------------------------------------你们这些怀疑论者真是可恶……第六代,记住,第六代……而且,这里面的学说你们不懂的……如果你们懂得一些俺们印度古老的哲学,那么就可以轻松地理解此中“玄之又玄”的道理……

    • 有源是将来战机雷达发展的趋势,其无论是造价还是工程难度都比无源要高得多,当然功能也比无源要先进得多,现在的无源只是在技术与资金上的一个折中方案,未来无源被替代只是时间问题

  2. 现在我估计我们正在与俄罗斯就有源相控阵雷达和新发动机的价格谈判呢。---------------------------------俺也是这么估计的……俄国人始终不相信中国佬,但是俺们印度人不存在这方面的问题……中国佬都是腹黑先生,他们的最终目的是要夺回他们所谓的俄国佬占领的“远东地区”的土地……俄国人虽然现在不得不找中国佬帮个衬,但他们心里对此却是再明白不过了——中国佬不可靠!

  3. 看到汉和。。。平可夫。。。。我就已经无力吐槽了!北美战忽局做的不错,加奖金。 但是南亚战忽局的应该扣奖金,不。应该连工资一起扣了,工作效率太差了。