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越南网友:4亿中国人不会说普通话(7)

越南网友EastSea:“4亿中国人不说普通话,他们不懂得普通话是什么东东。中国教育部说大约4亿人或者说30%的人口不会说国语。会说国语的人口中,有70%说得不够好。”中国网友ChineseTiger1986回复称,“大约4亿人说普通话不流利。广东人口有1亿,大多数广东人听得懂也会说普通话,但是不够流利在上海,年轻人会说标准的普通话,我就是其中之一。”

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
外文标题:History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?
外文地址:http://defence.pk/threads/history-of-vietnam-or-what-do-you-want-to-know-about-vietnam.272273/page-26


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以下是网友的讨论:


译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com/2014091010.html



djsjs
vietnamnese.how many chinese festivals do you keep now?

越南人,你们保留了多少中国节日?

Minjitta(越南)
Those festivals we celebrates are before China, and Vietnam born.


那些节日早在中国之前就有了,是越南的原生节日



Minjitta(越南)
Why can't Mighty China protect the two little cities?

为什么强大的中国保护不了这两个小城市?(三泰虎注:这里指的是香港和澳门)

KirovAirship(澳门)
Why can't mighty Turkey take back all its land conquered by mighty Ottoman,
why can't mighty Spain take back little lovely Gibraltar,
why can't mighty Argentina protected its beautiful islands,
why can't mighty India protected its whole mighty land from western foreigners,
why can't mighty Germany take back East Prussia,
why can't mighty glorious Vietnam protected its whole beautiful land from outsiders for more than 1000 years,
why can't people like you stop being stupid.


为什么强大的土耳其不要回奥斯曼帝国曾经征服过的领土;


为什么强大的巴西不要回直布罗陀


为什么强大的阿根廷保护不了漂亮的福岛?


为什么强大的印度保护不了本国领土免遭西方占领


为什么强大的德国不要回东普鲁士


为什么强大的越南保护不了被外来者占领1000多年的美丽领土


为什么你就不能不再傻下去



ChineseTiger1986(中国)
What is the 'Viet look'?

“越南长相”是咋样的?

Minjitta(越南)
None mix Viet male or female got double eye lids, very rare you see Viet with slant one lid eye. I wanted to said 100% of Vietnamese have double eye lib and not slant as Chinese eye, but there are no such thing 100%.


100%的越南人是双眼皮,哪像中国人的眼睛是斜的


ChineseTiger1986(中国)
Many Chinese got double eye lid as well, including the North Chinese.


There is no such thing that - double eye lid = Viet and single eye lid = Chinese.


许多中国人也是双眼皮啊,包括中国北方人


双眼皮就是越南人,单眼皮就是中国人,哪有这回事!



EastSea(越南)
Yes, 400 million Chinese don't speak madarine, they don't know what is this.

是的,4亿中国人不说普通话,他们不懂得普通话是什么东东

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KirovAirship(澳门)
Even though if you can't speak Mandarin, people can still read it. The writing systems are mostly same you silly.

即便不会说,也会写。书写系统大体是一样的,你个傻瓜。

ChineseTiger1986(中国)
Less than 100 million Chinese who cannot speak Mandarin, cheap BBC propaganda.

不会说普通话的中国人不到1亿,BBC的宣传很贱


EastSea(越南)
China's Education Ministry says that about 400 million people - or 30% of the population - cannot speak the country's national language.


Of the 70% of the population who can speak Mandarin, many do not do it well enough,


中国教育部说大约4亿人或者说30%的人口不会说国语。


会说国语的人口中,有70%说得不够好。


ChineseTiger1986(中国)
About 400 million people who cannot speak Mandarin fluently.


Guangdong has 100 million population, most Cantonese can understand and speak Mandarin, just not fluently.


In Shanghai, the young generation can speak Mandarin without any accent, and i am one of them.


大约4亿人说普通话不流利


广东人口有1亿,大多数广东人听得懂也会说普通话,但是不够流利


在上海,年轻人会说标准的普通话,我就是其中之一。


EastSea(越南)
I have been to Shanghai, there is most developed City in China. It's special case.


but Shanghai_ren have their own language group which is mostly unintelligible to other Chinese. Shanghai people use this as a way of identifying each other but also to exclude other Chinese in the conversation. They hatred Peking_ren who speak "Guan Hua" the "language of rulers".


WuYue can be independence state.


我去过上海,上海是中国最发达的城市,是特例


上海人也说其他中国人听不懂的方言。上海人用方言来鉴别是否本地人,把外地人排除在外。他们讨厌说官话的北京人。


ChineseTiger1986(中国)
Tell me, are the Shanghai_ren any different from the Beijing_ren?


I saw that we are tremendously different from the Vietnamese, that's why we belong to a different country


告诉我,上海人是否有别于北京人?


我们的长相与越南人迥异,所以我们归属不同的国家


EastSea(越南)
People from northern and southern China are physically and genetically different from one another. Head shape, body size and susceptibility to disease vary greatly between the north and south.


People from Beijing and northern China are often heavier and taller and have broader shoulders, lighter skin, smaller eyes and more pointed noses than Southerners. They favor noodles over rice, have the blood of horsemen from Manchuria and Mongolia, and are regarded as "imperious, quarrelsome, rather aloof, political, proud, and less ostentatious and flashy with their money than Southerners.”


People from Shanghai, Canton and southern China are generally smaller, thinner, browner, and have rounder eyes and more rounded noses than Northerners. They favor rice over noodles, ... are regarded as "talkative, friendly, complacent, sloppy, commercial-minded and materialistic."


The dividing line between Northerners and Southerners is the Yangtze River


中国北方人和南方人在体型和基因上存在不同。头型、身体尺寸以及对疾病的敏感性存在很大差异。


相比南方人,北方人通常更重、更高、肩膀更宽、皮肤更白、眼睛更小、鼻子更尖。北方人更喜欢吃面食,南方人更喜欢吃米食。北方人继承了满族和蒙古骑兵的血液,更为傲慢、好争论、较为冷漠、更具政治性、不那么爱卖弄、不那么爱露富。


而来自上海、广东等地的南方人身材更矮小,较单薄、肤色较深、眼睛圆圆的,鼻子也比北方人更圆,更喜欢吃米食,爱说话、为人友善、自满、粗心、更具有商业头脑,更物质。


南北的分界线是长江


StarCraft_ZT(中国)
Simply judging by look, including facial appearance, height and skin, you can't distinguish north Chinese from south Chinese. Trust me, old sport, this is a bad idea. I've been to almost everywhere in China, so I made such comment. The only difference is eating habit and accent.


仅靠容颜、身高和肤色等长相难以区分北方人和南方人。


我几乎跑遍整个中国了,所以我才会如此下定论。


唯一的区别是饮食习惯和口音



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