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在局势日益紧张的东亚,中国第五代战机可能是游戏规则改变者

2014-08-23 11:55 91个评论 字号:

三泰虎8月23日译文,巴基斯坦军坛帖子《中国五代机在局势日益紧张的东亚可能是游戏规则改变者》。帖子称,中国正在研发国产第五代战机,以抗衡美国的F-35联合攻击战斗机和俄罗斯的T-50战机。虽然中国对该飞机的确切规格一直三缄其口,但是专家们警告,在东亚潜在的脆弱安全环境里,该飞机可能是游戏规则改变者。目前,中国成飞正在试飞歼20的第四号原型机。7月26日,歼20的最新版飞了两个小时后成功降落。有关歼20的信息是有限的。一位不愿透露姓名的人士对简氏防务周刊说道,中国十年内可能会部署20架以上歼20战机。

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
外文标题:China’s Fifth-Generation Fighter Could Be A Game Changer In An Increasingly Tense East Asia
外文地址:http://defence.pk/threads/chinas-fifth-generation-fighter-could-be-a-game-changer-in-an-increasingly-tense-east-asia.330066/

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China is in the process of developing its own native fifth-generation fighter to compete with the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, and Russia’s T-50.

Although China has been secretive about the exact specifications of the aircraft, experts are warning that the plane could be a game-changer in East Asia’s potentially fragile security environment.

China’s Chengdu J-20 is currently in its fourth round of prototypes. On July 26, the most recent version of the fighter flew for two hours before successfully landing.

Information about the J-20 is limited, but an unnamed Asian government source told IHS Jane’s that upwards of 20 J-20s could be deployed by within the decade.

中国正在研发国产第五代战机,以抗衡美国的F-35联合攻击战斗机和俄罗斯的T-50战机。

虽然中国对该飞机的确切规格一直三缄其口,但是专家们警告,在东亚潜在的脆弱安全环境里,该飞机可能是游戏规则改变者。

目前,中国成飞正在试飞歼20的第四号原型机。7月26日,歼20的最新版飞了两个小时后成功降落。

有关歼20的信息是有限的。一位不愿透露姓名的人士对简氏防务周刊说道,中国十年内可能会部署20架以上歼20战机。

以下是跟帖:

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com/2014082301.html

NiceGuy(越南)

China can even make a good car engine, so, no hope for even 3rd gen China fighter.

China have only 1 choice: keep buying fighter from Russia and hope there is no kill switch chip inside the engines.

中国连汽车发动机都造不来,所以连三代机都没希望造出来。

中国只有一个选择:继续从俄罗斯采购战机,且希望战机引擎没有被内置“生死开关”

ni8mare(印度)
Mad bro ..

疯狂的哥们

ChineseTiger1986(中国)
He is definitely mad.

That’s why Vietnam is always a laughing stock in the world.

他肯定疯了,

这就是越南一直是世界笑料的原因。

NiceGuy(越南)
We have been fought against China many times, we know what China can, what can not. Bro

我们已经与中国交战很多次了,我们非常了解中国的能力。

ni8mare(印度)
yeah but that was long age …a lot have changed…
and what your fight against China has to do with capability to make 5th gen fighter?

是的,不过那是很久以前的事情了,现在已经大为不同

NiceGuy(越南)
China is not smart in making good engine, so no hope for them to even make a good 3rd gen fighter.

中国没那个智商造先进的发动机,所以连三代机都没希望造出来

ChineseTiger1986(中国)
BTW, enjoying your first negative rating.

Your primitive jungle country can’t even produce a single component of the aircraft, yet you have the gut to make fun at a mature air power like China.

I do really appreciate your courage, but this courage is based on the sole ignorance.

你们原始的丛林国家连飞机零件都不会造,你居然有勇气嘲笑中国的空军实力。

我确实佩服你的勇气,不过这个勇气是建立在你无知上的。

NiceGuy(越南)

Try to make a good fighter engine first, talk abt ur air power later.

先造出先进的战机发动机,然后再来谈论你们的空军实力。

ChineseTiger1986(中国)
We already have it.

Funny that people prefer to label Japan as an air power while they don’t have their own military high thrust turbofan engine

我们已经有了。搞笑的是,有人喜欢把日本标榜为空军大国,而日本连高推力涡扇发动机都没有。

Kyle Sun(中国)
To the infinite of your stupidity!

愚蠢无下限啊

NiceGuy(越南)
SO can China make a good car engine now ?? if not, then how can u make a good engine for even 3rd fighter

中国现在造得出先进的汽车发动机了?如果造不出,那么又如何能造出三代机的先进发动机。

Kyle Sun(中国)
Yes , we may can not make a good car engine. But we can make ICBM /space program etc.

是的,我们也许造不出好的汽车发动机,但是我们造得出洲际弹道导弹,有能力搞太空项目

NiceGuy(越南)
We r talking abt 5th gen fighter here, not ICBM or space program .

China 5th gen fighter is just a waste project.

我们在讨论的是第五代战机,不是洲际弹道导弹或太空项目

中国五代机只是废品

Zarvan(巴基斯坦)
Yes this waste will beat the hell out off you and China is producing engines and good ones

是的,这个废品能够痛扁你。中国正在生产先进的发动机

Kyle Sun(中国)

Years ago , western said the same words about our nuke program and many other military or civil programs also.

多年前,西方也是这样说我们的核计划等诸多军用或民用项目的。

ChineseTiger1986(中国)

Bn8QC

NiceGuy(越南)
And those fighter use Russia engine. If they use CHina engine, then its only for training, not for fighting in real battle

这些战机搭载的是俄罗斯发动机。如果用的是中国发动机,那么这些飞机肯定是拿来训练的,不会用于实战。

Echo_419(印度)
Good pic,what’s the name of the fighter

好图,战机的名字叫什么

ChineseTiger1986(中国)
J-11B

歼-11B

Echo_419(印度)
You guys are doing good in this field[basically all the fields],all the best for your future endeavors

干得不错嘛,祝你们未来的努力一切顺利

ChineseTiger1986(中国)
J-11B is a major upgrade of J-11A which is based on Su-27SK.

BTW, we need those new J-11B to fulfill the quantity of our air force.

The aerodynamic design of the Su-27 family is already near flawless for a fourth generation fighter, thus I don’t think that we need to spend more time to redesign everything.

BTW, comparing J-20 with PAK FA, you can see how China and Russia have taken a completely different approach when it comes to the concept of the fifth generation fighter.

歼-11B是歼-11A的升级版,在苏-27SK基础上研发的。

顺便说下,我们空军需要大批量服役新-11B战机。

对四代机来说,苏-27的气动外形设计已经接近完美,我觉得没必要花时间重新设计。

把歼20和俄罗斯五代机PAK FA比较起来,可以看出中国和俄罗斯对五代机概念有着完全不同的理解

Echo_419(印度)
Yeah,i liked the approach of you jumping the development of 4th gen fighters & just using SU variants to fill gaps & focus entirely on 5th gen,but let’s not forget you have a solid Industrial base as well as a well developed aeronautical industry to do that

是的,我欣赏你们在苏式战机基础上发展四代机来弥补差距并全力投入五代机研发的做法。别忘了,你们不仅有强大的工业基础,而且有发达的航空工业



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