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印度防卫网:放轻松,中国第一艘航母就是一堆垃圾

2014-05-12 18:41 56个评论 字号:

印度人眼里的中国第一艘航母印度防卫网帖子。有线杂志“危险房间”的博客呼吁读者不要对中国的“新”航母感到紧张,解放军海军部署的第一艘航母是一艘80年代初的前苏联老式军舰。大卫埃克斯认为,它象征性的重要程度远远超过其具体的军事价值。她的新近防炮已安装。她的浅灰色油漆已干透。她的战机都在飞翔,她的主机正在运转。她从只完工一半,缺乏主机的乌克兰购入十三年后,成为了中国海军第一艘航 母,正准备从中国东北的大连造船厂启航。

译者:ngageboy
来源:http://bbs.santaihu.com/thread-8544-1-1.html

Relax: China’s First Aircraft Carrier is a Piece of Junk –China Digital Times (CDT)

放轻松:中国第一艘航母就是一堆垃圾-中国数字时代

Wired magazine’s Danger Room blog urges readers not to panic about China’s “new” aircraft carrier, a former Soviet vessel of early 80s vintage and the first carrier to be deployed by the PLA Navy. Its symbolic weight far outweighs its concrete military value, argues David Axe:

Her new guns are installed. Her light-gray paint job has dried. Her airplanes are flying and her engines are turning. Thirteen years after she was purchased from Ukraine half-complete and lacking engines, the Chinese navy’s very first aircraft carrier is ready to set sail from Dalian shipyard in northeast China. The former Soviet carrier Varyag, renamed Shi Lang in Chinese service, could begin sea trials this summer.

Just how worried should the world be?

The answer depends on who you ask. To China’s closest neighbors, the prospect of a carrier speeding heavily-armed Chinese jet fighters across the world’s oceans is an alarming one. But the U.S. Navy, the world’s leading carrier power and arguably the Chinese navy’s biggest rival, seems oddly unaffected ….

When Shi Lang finally gets underway in coming months, she will boost the ability of the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) to patrol airspace over contested sea zones, provided they’re not too far from the Chinese mainland. And more to the point, she’ll look good doing it. “I think the change in perception by the region will be significant,” Adm. Robert Willard, commander of U.S. Pacific forces, told the Senate in April.

Willard said he is “not concerned” about the ship’s military impact.

有线杂志“危险房间”的博客呼吁读者不要对中国的“新”航母感到紧张,解放军海军部署的第一艘航母是一艘80年代初的前苏联老式军舰。大卫埃克斯认为,它象征性的重要程度远远超过其具体的军事价值。

她的新近防炮已安装。她的浅灰色油漆已干透。她的战机都在飞翔,她的主机正在运转。她从只完工一半,缺乏主机的乌克兰购入十三年后,成为了中国海军第一艘航母,正准备从中国东北的大连造船厂启航。这艘前苏联航母瓦良格号,重新命名为施琅号进入中国现役,可能会在今年夏天开始海试。
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(译者注:由于是篇过时的老文,以下内容不再翻译,敬请见谅)

以下为网友留言:

sangos
Underestimating the enemy is a typical western trait…remember ‘Japanese monkeys with sticks’ from WW2. Do NOT fall prey to it.

低估敌人是一种典型的西方特征……还记得二战时“日本猴子只会用棍子’吗。不要再次陷进去啦。

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MiG-23MLD回复sangos
China is no different to Japan, they will be defeated, but the problem is a WWIII will means trillions of death, therefore let us pray it neve comes to a war, China behind its facade is no more than corrupt, polluted, undemocratic empire, it is just a more dynamic North Korea where hundreds of millions are oppressed

中国与日本没啥不一样,他们都将被打败,但问题是第三次世界大战将意味着无数死亡,所以让我们祈祷战争永远不要到来,中国(光鲜)外表的背后是没有比它更贪污,污染,不民主的帝国了,它是仅比拥有数百万计被压迫(人们)的朝鲜有活力一点而已。

Sangos回复MiG-23MLD
Japan can sill be nuked today into oblivion until they get some nukes. Same cannot be said for China. You are a victim of western media constantly bad mouthing developing peoples like us. after decades of imperialistic slavery Democrazy does not deliver the goods in time as many in my country will attest to its stupid frustrating inefficacy.

别忘了日本直到现在仍可能被核攻击,除非他们拥核。同样不能对中国说:您是一个西方媒体不断唱衰的发展中国家的受害者,就像我们。几十年以来帝国主义奴役般的冥煮妄想,没有如愿实现的很多例子在我们国家能证明它的愚蠢令人沮丧的低效率。

ГЛОНАСС
That´s old varyag soviet technology. It was inferior to western aircarrier tech in 1990s and its super inferior to western aircarriers in 2014. China copy pasting them makes absolutely NO SENSE at all!

Russia only has Admiral Kruznetsov carrier as a symbol in its fleet. No Russian with a common sense would ever place Kruznetsov against a Nimitz class US carrier
Soviets did never invest much in Carrier technology. Because it was not Russian defence doctrine. Our Russian Submarines on the other hand are top notch technology.

这是旧瓦良格号的苏联技术。它比20世纪90年代的西方航母技术都逊色,不用说它比2014年的西方航母就更加逊色了。中国的复制粘贴使得它们绝对没有任何意义可言!

俄罗斯只将库兹涅佐夫海军上将号航母作为舰队的象征。俄罗斯人不认为能用库兹涅佐夫号去对抗美国尼米兹级航母。

苏联人永远不会大量投入去研究航母技术。因为这不符合俄罗斯国防理念。另一方面我们俄罗斯的潜艇却拥有顶尖的技术。

Sangos回复ГЛОНАСС
It is just a trial ship for Chinese. They are planning to build giant ACs like these – already posted in the forum.

Btw delve a little into China’s history, being a naval superpower is nothing new to them. Fleet of Admiral Zhang He way before Europeans.

这只是中国的一艘实验船。他们正在计划建造同样巨大的航母,已经在论坛贴出。
顺便说一句,稍微研究一下中国的历史,成为海上超级力量对于他们来说并不陌生,在欧洲人之前就有郑和将军的舰队了。

Venureddy回复ГЛОНАСС
i like kirov more than kuzenetsov its better to build more ships like kirov or ships similar to baku class aircraft carrying cruisers.

相对于库兹涅佐夫我更喜欢基洛夫级,最好建更多像基洛夫级或类似于巴库级的载机巡洋舰

kiduva21
why Russia need a carrier when they have border in Europe, middle east, china, north America(sea border) with huge land spreading northern hemisphere

俄罗斯为什么需要航母,它与欧洲,中东,中国,北美(海边)接壤,庞大的领土横跨北半球。

MiG-23MLD回复kiduva21
Russia as well as China are continental empires, the USA and the West are maritime empires

俄罗斯和中国一样是陆地帝国,美国和西方是海洋帝国

INDIAN NATIONALIST
do not underestimate them.

不要小看他们

ГЛОНАСС
China is a dragon made of papier-mâché claims US General.

美将军声称中国是一头纸龙



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