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印度女孩因评论湿婆神军党首领逝世被捕

2012-11-23 12:27 25个评论 字号:

据印度媒体报道,印度2名女子因评论印度湿婆神军党党首萨克雷逝世导致孟买商店关门的言论而遭起诉,此案激起印度民众愤怒。报道称,21岁的莎欣在其facebook主页中评论称:“像萨克雷一样的人每天都会出生或死亡,他不值得商店关门。”莎欣的朋友对这条评论表示“赞同”。两人随后遭到警方逮捕。在庭审中,她们被指控“增加阶层间的仇恨”。《印度时报》以《耻辱,两女孩因无辜评论遭逮捕》为题报道称,警方的行为明显是滥用职权。印度新闻评议会主席以及印度电信部长均表达遗憾,呼吁警方放人。

印度媒体配的漫画

以下是印度网友的评论:

原文标题:Now act against hoodlums and cops, compensate girls
原文链接:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Now-act-against-hoodlums-and-cops-compensate-girls/articleshow/17302850.cms

Rohit Singh (California)
Severest punishment for the police, the activists and the Sena leaders who were involved in this activity. All levels of people involved should be punished. Nothing lesser.
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给予涉事的警察、活动分子和湿婆神军党领导人最严厉的惩罚。各级相关人员应该接受惩罚,不得轻饶。

Randy.R (canada)
Shame on indian police and shiv sena members.India has no free press as they claim.This is injustice and all the guilty ones need to be brought to justice.
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印度警察和湿婆神军党成员可耻。就像他们所说的,印度没有自由媒体。这不公平,所有罪犯必须被绳之以法。

Sudheer (Bangalore)
Can you please stop this news “Times”. You have blown this out of proportion. Its not a BIG deal. There is no need to go berserk for this incident.
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印度时报,请别再报道这个新闻了。已经过度夸大了。没什么大不了的。没必要为此发狂!

hmmm (india)
Suppression of fundamental rights and violation of the Constitution is not an issue? Idiots like you are the reason our country is sh*t.

压制基本权利和违反宪法不是个问题?正是你这样的傻瓜让国家变成一坨屎。

tatai (Mumbai) replies to Rohit Singh
The policemen, and all the 2000 odd sena activists should individually be FORCED to cough up 15000 rupees each and one night for their daughters/ wives/ sisters in police custody. Then only they will understand what stupidity they have done. Idiots…!!
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警察和2000多名湿婆神军党活动分子每个人交出15000卢比,他们的女儿、妻子、妹妹拘留一天。只有那样,他们才会理解自己做了多么愚蠢的事情,傻瓜!!

suresh kumar (india) replies to Sudheer
i demand police should be hanged no matter if they are 100 police officers involved.its shame on our country and the matter is about the fame of our country,we cant tolerate such type of things which violates constitution of india and those girls should be awarded freedom of speech award.
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即便有涉及100名警官,我要求处死这些人。此事让国家蒙羞,玷污了国家声誉。我们无法容忍此类违反印度宪法的事情。两名女孩应该被授予言论自由大奖。

tatai (Mumbai)
Yeah…had you been arrested, it would have been a BIG deal for you…right?? Just because you did not face the humiliation, its not a big issue…right?
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要是你被逮捕了,那就是了不起的事,对吗?只是因为你没有蒙羞,所以不是大问题,对吗?

Manohar AM (Hyderabad)
The government will cow-down to threats from these goondas. Gutless are elected to represent the people of India.
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政府会屈服于暴徒的威胁。懦夫被选举为印度人民的代表。

Anand (Meerut)
One day you will rue your comment. When it becomes a personal tragedy, then you would realize the problem being faced by those two women. People like you need to be restrained and not comment flippantly
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总有一天,你会后悔自己说的话。一旦演变成个人悲剧,你就会理解两名女子目前面临的麻烦。你这样的人应该克制,别轻率言论。

RM (India)
People commenting here dont know what exactly the girl has posted! First try to find that out and later justify the act of Police and the Shiv-Sainiks. She has abused the freedom of ‘Speech of Freedom’. She has no right in using slang launguage and hurt the feelings at the time of Death!
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在这里评论的人不知道女孩到底说了些什么!先搞清楚,再来评判警察和湿婆神军党的行为。她滥用了“言论自由”。党首刚死,她没有权利用粗话伤害别人的感情!

Rohan (Pune)
Agree with your comments. The girl shoud have thought before putting such bad comments when majority was under deep grief. People through Internet these days try to show their ‘carefree’ attitude and feel proud about it.. She is not innocent..neither does her act sensible!…
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同意。大多数人处于悲痛之中,女孩发表负面评论前应该三思。这些天,人们在网上显摆“无忧无虑”的态度,并为此感到自豪。她不无辜,其行为也并非理智!

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

tatai (Mumbai)
Mr. Rohan,kindly know facts before commenting stupidly. You live in India, not in China. She DID NOT MENTION even a single derogatory word/ slang/ abuse. She just expressed her view…and thats a FREEDOM you get in India…moron
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Rohan先生,傻傻评论前,先弄清事实。你生活在印度,不是生活在中国。她甚至没有提到一个贬损、粗俗或者辱骂的词,只是表达了观点….这是你在印度能享受的自由….傻瓜。

Mohamed Shabandri (Mumbai)
Congress is using the carrot stick policy. One minister will be against the arrest and the other will agree with the arrest of the girls.

国大党玩弄胡萝卜加大棒的伎俩。一名部长反对逮捕女孩,另一名部长赞同。

Thokia Singh (Mumbai)
Yes the Girls should be Compensaated and the Officers should be Punished by Dismissing them without any Pension or other Perks. Let them go and join the Shiv Sena
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女孩应该得到补偿,官员应该接受惩罚,革职并拒发养老金或其他额外津贴。让他们加入湿婆神军党。

Pk (Nairobi)
This is what BT did for most of his life… to speak freely without fear… often causing hatred and disturbed law and order… so how was he right and the girls wrong… The girls, you, me and every citizen has freedom to express their thoughts… Sena is hypocritical and follow fascism like HITLER…
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在一生中的大部分时间里,党首畅所欲言,无所畏惧,经常制造仇恨,破坏法律秩序…….怎么他是对的,女孩就错了?女孩,你,我,以及每个公民有言论自由的权利。湿婆神军党是虚伪的,奉行的是法西斯主义……

DR WILTON NORONHA (cochin)
now thats reporting media has come out against injustice thank you media GOD BLESS………..
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媒体出来反对不公正,感谢媒体,上帝保佑……

Indian (Mumbai) replies to Manohar AM
Yep Media has done good job…….These politicians have to draw their line now.Enough is enough

媒体做得很棒……这些政客现在得划清界限,适可而止。

19DOTorg (Mumbai)
The sympathy that Bal Tharky’s Shiv Sena got on the day of BT’s death was really short lived. If 20 LAC people prayed for him on his funeral, AT LEAST 80 CRORE Indians are now cursing his Shiv Sena. Not to mention the 150 crore Muslims of the world who will curse him perpetually.
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党首死的那一天,湿婆神军党获得的同情真的很短暂。如果有200万人在葬礼上为其祈祷,现在至少有8亿印度人咒骂湿婆神军党,更不用提一直诅咒他的15亿msl。

原文标题:Shame: 2 girls arrested for harmless online comment
原文链接:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Shame-2-girls-arrested-for-harmless-online-comment/articleshow/17286105.cms

yogesh kotian
Do we have freedom of speech and expression?
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我们有言论自由的权利吗?

Gulrose Aslam (Calcutta, India)
Wat about Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Expression, we must taught to the Govt officials and the politicians……. Shame Shame……………….

言论自由哪去了,我们必须教导政府官员和政客…..耻辱,耻辱………

mohan (mumbai)
not only condemned but demand the strict action against the culprits
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不仅要谴责,还要对罪犯采取严厉行动。

mohan (mumbai)
we are living in a banana republic. these innocent girls are unnecessarily tourcherd and harrased by police and sainiks . Is expressing ones views is a crime . even at the time of britishers and mughuls we have the freedom of speech. we must come unite to fight against this injustice
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我们生活在香蕉共和国里,无辜女孩不必要地被警察和湿婆神军党虐待和骚扰。表达观点是犯罪吗,甚至在英殖民时代和莫卧儿王朝时,人们也有言论自由的权利。我们必须团结起来反抗此种不公。

Bipin Raj (Mumbai)
Only Politicians have freedom of speech & expression in our country.
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我们国家只有政客拥有言论自由的权利。

Jairam pahuja (Ulhasnagar)
I don’t want go in jail.
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我不想入狱。

Dipesh Barot (Virar)
It happens only in INDIA.
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只有印度才会发生这样的事情。

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

Indian (India)
This shows Complete non-Tolerence by Shiv Sainiks… Thats all the Shiv Sena about … Dirty Politics by Violent means. How can India be Democratic Nation if Freedom of Speach in not there. I think its time that Mr President should Intervene and Enforce President’s Rule in Maharashtra. These are not just small incident, its shows the picture of how our Society is moving towards un-democratics , non-tolarence and total monopoly by few people called Shiv Sainiks.
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此举表明湿婆神军党实行零容忍政策。湿婆神军党尽是靠暴力手段搞肮脏政治。如果没有言论自由,印度怎么能成为皿煮国家。总统应该干预,在马哈拉斯特拉邦实施总统权利。这些不是小事件,而是表明我们社会的发展方向,即少数叫做湿婆神军党的人让社会变得不皿煮、零容忍和专断。

Ahmed Shafiuddin (bangalore)
This kind of action will not help democratic india any way . it should condemned from all sections of the society .
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此举无助于印度皿煮,应该遭到社会各阶层的谴责。

kodali (Andhra Pradedsh)
these girls should be refunded their 15,000 bail money as well give them an unconditional apology from the concerned officials as well as the state government
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应该归还女孩的15000卢比保释金,有关官员以及邦政府应该无条件向她们道歉。

vikram (thane)
i 100 percent agree with you brother there is no freedom of expression . india is a democratic country . every one has a right to express his views . even taliban is better than these people they are worst than talibanis . i am feeling that i am living in remote area of afganistan . india is not a democratic country
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完全同意!印度是皿煮国家,每个人有表达观点的权利,连塔利班也好过这些人。我感觉自己生活在阿富汗的边远地区。印度不是一个皿煮国家。

PARVIN (Noida, India)
to media u r wrong to say the comments r harmless they r directly insultting the sentiments of lakhs of supporters of the great patriot balasaheb
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致媒体:你说这些评论无辜,那是错的,她们间接侮辱了数十万党首支持者的感情。

Raza (Gujrat, Paksitan)
I just want to say…… LOL “WHAT A DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH”
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我只是想说…..“好一个言论自由的皿煮国家”,笑…..

Mamta (New Delhi)
Shame on such religious groups and even more shame on Mumbai Government which supports such things and do not intervene.
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这些宗教团体真可耻,孟买政府更可耻,不去干预,反而表示支持。

Arun Francis (Pune)
Its a real shame to the country By arresting them….Their is no Freedom to Speak….Really sad
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逮捕她们实在让国家蒙羞…..没有言论自由….很难过。

Gowtham (Bangalore)
There is nothing wrong in expressing our views…And both of them have not mentioned any name in their comment. My question is “Is India still democratic country”?. we have right to speech and express our views.
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表达观点并没有错。两名女孩在评论中没有提及任何人的名字。我的问题是:印度还是一个皿煮国家吗?我们有言论自由和表达观点的权利。

Nea (mummbai)
my anger knew no bounds, when I was aware of this incident, yesterday.. It is indeed a BIG shame for the country!!
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昨天获知此事时,我愤怒到极点,这确实是国家的一个巨大耻辱!

湿婆神军党简介(转自百度百科)

湿婆神军党 (Śīv Senā,意为湿婆的军队)是印度的一个民族主义政党,成立于 1966年6月19日,由萨克雷创立。该党的宗旨是基于“土地之子”的理念和印度教民族主义。湿婆神军党的信仰——”土地之子”理念认为马哈拉施特拉人应该在这个邦比外来人得到更多的权利。 不过最近湿婆神军党已经更为强调印度教民族主义。在第13届马哈拉施特拉邦议会选举湿婆神军党曾经成为马哈拉施特拉邦,仍是该地区最有影响的印度教民族主义政党之一。

宗教起源

湿婆还富于自我牺牲精神。当恒河女神从雪山天国降凡之际,湿婆为了避免水势过猛淹没众生,他亲自以头接水,让恒河在他的发绺间流转千年,经缓冲后再流到人间。

湿婆居住在凯拉萨山(Mount Kalashi,即中国xz阿里境内的冈仁波钦神山) ,他的乘骑是公牛南迪(Nandi),他的神妃是雪山神女帕尔瓦蒂(Parvatī),又叫乌玛(Umā,光明、美丽)。湿婆的配偶起源于印度土著的母神,也像湿婆一样兼具生殖与毁灭双重性格,呈现温柔相与恐怖相等不同的相貌。帕尔瓦蒂或乌玛的形象是娇媚娴淑的妻子。湿婆配偶的另一种形象杜尔伽(Durgā,难近母)则是美艳而嗜杀的复仇女神,曾代表诸神杀死水牛怪魔希沙。还有一种形象迦梨(Kalī,黑女神),面目狰狞,酷爱血祭,纯属恐怖的死神。湿婆与帕尔瓦蒂的儿子伽内什(Gaṇeśa)是可爱的象头神,另一个儿子塞犍陀(Skanda)则是勇敢的正义的伟大的帅气的战神。塞犍陀就是佛教的护法天尊:韦驮菩萨。韦陀菩萨:梵名Skanda,巴利名KHANDA,又称韦将军、韦天将军,原来是婆罗门教的战神,有六头十二臂,手拿弓箭, 骑孔雀。崇拜韦驮的信仰最初流行在南印度,五世纪后传到北印度,被大乘佛教吸引为守护神,是南方增长天八大将军之一,位居四天王下三十二将军之首。 韦驮生而聪慧,早离尘欲,后来皈依佛门,成为护法天神。传说唐朝道宣律师曾与天人会谈,说到南方天王部下有一位韦将军,从而感得他现身护法,身着甲胄,合掌而立,宝杵横放臂上。从此以后,中国的道场中便开始立有天将军身的韦驮菩萨像。

党史

1966年,湿婆神军党(Shiv Sena)由巴拉·萨克雷创建,属于印度右翼民族主义政党,旨在捍卫马哈拉施特拉邦本地居民权利。

1992年和1993年,孟买发生多起骚乱,政府指控湿婆神军党成员在组织攻击msl方面扮演重要角色。

20世纪90年代,萨克雷领导的湿婆神军党与印度人民党结盟。1995年,两党赢得马哈拉施特拉邦议会选举,组成邦政府。

1995年-1999年邦联合政府期间,萨克雷得到绰号“远程控制器”,被认为在幕后影响邦政府的决策。

21世纪初,湿婆神军党已经更为强调印度教民族主义。在第13届马哈拉施特拉邦议会选举湿婆神军党曾经成为马哈拉施特拉邦,仍是该地区最有影响的印度教民族主义政党之一,该党在288席的邦议会中拥有44席。

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  3. Rohan先生,傻傻评论前,先弄清事实。你生活在印度,不是生活在中国。她甚至没有提到一个贬损、粗俗或者辱骂的词,只是表达了观点….这是你在印度能享受的自由….傻瓜。
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    • 就是,“专制的”中国 ,竟然允许人们天天骂党,而印度人却说中国人骂党会被共产党杀头,就是那么无知,却被印度人奉为“真理”。
      而“民主”的印度,如此简单的评论,竟然被政府逮捕,有意思。真希望阿三好好想想,也有点长进,别在把对中国的无知当成知识。

  4. 如果这事发生在中国…
    阿三1:
    中国每年都会因为这些事死很多人,真同情中国人
    阿三2:
    回复阿三1:嘿,兄弟,你的同情中国人是看不到,因为他们一旦被发现上国外网站,就会被政府秘密处死
    阿三3:
    这种事绝对不会发生在印度,印度是世界上最大的民主国家,我为此感到骄傲

    但是这事发生在印度…
    阿三1:
    印度时报,请别再报道这个新闻了。已经过度夸大了。没什么大不了的。没必要为此发狂!
    阿三2:
    在这里评论的人不知道女孩到底说了些什么!先搞清楚,再来评判警察和湿婆神军党的行为。她滥用了“言论自由”。党首刚死,她没有权利用粗话伤害别人的感情!
    阿三3:
    致媒体:你说这些评论无辜,那是错的,她们间接侮辱了数十万党首支持者的感情。

  5. 言论自由,只有在获得生活自由,经济自由的条件下才叫自由!把你放在黑暗的世界里那叫放屁!

  6. 为什么逮捕呀?一个人逝世在网络上被公布是正常呀,如果他(她)生前为人民做了很多好事被报道出来只能让人怀念这个人呀,也能督促后人像他(她)学习,只要不是恶意诽谤的言论来诋毁,不应该这样呀,不可理解